Jewish Group
Related: About this forum(Jewish Group) Report: Trump will watch documentary of Hamas Oct. 7 atrocities before meeting Netanyahu tomorrow
I realize that this may be controversial. It will be interesting to see what comes from it, though. No one who has seen this video has not been permanently changed. I saw some clips from it at the Oct 7 exhibit in Los Angeles. The easy stuff to watch without any gore, torture, rapes, and decapitations. What I saw still haunts me.
According to the report, Trumps special envoy Steve Witkoff saw the footage while in Israel last week and was left shocked, and decided that the president should view it as well.
The 47-minute IDF compilation of footage from Hamass October 7 onslaught, which saw some 3,000 terrorists burst across the border into Israel to kill some 1,200 people and seize 251 hostages, mostly civilians, amid acts of brutality and sexual assault, will be shortened to 20-30 minutes for the US president, Ynet reports.
The footage, first screened for foreign journalists in Israel on October 23, 2023, includes harrowing scenes of murder, torture and decapitation from the Hamas slaughter in southern Israel, including raw videos from the terrorists bodycams.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-trump-will-watch-documentary-of-hamas-oct-7-atrocities-before-meeting-netanyahu-tomorrow/

Woodycall
(408 posts)I think the last "Holocaust Card" was just played. They're all used up now. And I used to be one of the Jewish people's biggest advocates...
Richard D
(9,574 posts). . . we lose a lot of fair-weather friends when things get too real.
Woodycall
(408 posts)Two of my uncles and my father volunteered in WWII. One other would have but he was too young but he and my father later went to fight in Korea where they were trapped and almost died on the frozen ground of the Chosin Reservoir. My father fought the fucking NAZIS on the beaches and land in Libia, Sicily, Italy (Anzio!), and then up through France and into Germany where he was part of the group that liberated Dachau!
You've got a lot of fucking nerve!
Richard D
(9,574 posts)My father was there as well. A great evil was eliminated. Well, honestly, not eliminated for it has changed form, which should be obvious to all.
I hope you might someday realize how using the term: "Holocaust card" to describe the horrors perpetrated by radical Islamists on innocent civilians is about as abhorrent, insulting, disrespectful, hateful, and antisemetic as it gets.
Or maybe I misunderstood you. I hope so, and if so, I apologize.
Woodycall
(408 posts)and I have, given the history of all that Israel has suffered, not just on that date but for decades (rocket attacks, suicide bombers, kidnappings, etc...), have been largely on the side of Israel since October 7th. Even though I thought it was "heavy-handed", I understood the years and years of pain Israel has endured from the terrorists in Gaza and other neighboring states. But dispossessing people and taking their land to build "The Riviera of The Middle East" presumably with a Trump hotel and casino is beyond the pale and Israel and the Jewish people will never be able claim the "moral high ground", ever again... That's what I meant by my comment and, it's the truth.
Richard D
(9,574 posts)I do not know the answer. The Riviera of the Middle East with Trump Hotel is absurd, to say the least, and I doubt it will ever happen.
But what to do? I wish I or anyone else had an answer. It is not sustainable for Israel to have a stones-throw neighbor who is committed to killing, raping, and destroying its population. Israel has done so much to try to achieve peace there, and the repayment was Oct 7, and the absolute promise from the Islamists to repeat it indefinitely. It is certainly untenable, to say the least.
Woodycall
(408 posts)Richard D
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And if you dare to examine how the "left" has lost the message:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFoEuFINW7X/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Woodycall
(408 posts)and about 500,000 of his friends and brothers-in-arms fighting that sick shit that didn't make it back either.