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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:36 PM Dec 2016

Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. Thats A Bad Sign For Unions.

It Looks Like Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. That’s A Bad Sign For Unions.
Dave Jamieson
Huffington Post

Back in January, the labor group Working America raised an alarm for Democrats: Their canvassing near Pittsburgh and Cleveland suggested Donald Trump had undeniable appeal in areas with high union membership. His outsider message, built on assailing trade deals such as NAFTA, was resonating with white folks with union cards who might normally vote Democratic.

Caveat: There are no completely reliable data on the votes of union members specifically. But Tuesday’s exit polling, which deserves a grain of salt, suggests that Hillary Clinton did worse among union households than the Democratic candidate has done in recent elections. (”Union household” is different from union member ― the designation includes not only union members but voters who live with one.)

The national exit polls gave Clinton an 8-point advantage in union households. She did better in some states: In Michigan, Clinton had a 16-point margin among union households.

But those would still be weak performances compared with other recent candidates. Exit polls from 2012 showed Obama taking union households by 18 points.



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Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. Thats A Bad Sign For Unions. (Original Post) portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
I guess they will be happy they voted for orange hitler when the union contracts are voided kimbutgar Dec 2016 #1
right to work for everybody NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #3
Same crap happened with Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #2
Husband was a Worried senior Dec 2016 #12
Agree with the hatred of Carter. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #13
Wall Street Democrats.. speaktruthtopower Dec 2016 #4
Apparently none of them knew Trump said they were overpaid. Vinca Dec 2016 #5
Wisconsin proud Union State jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #6
I'm A Union Member RobinA Dec 2016 #7
This is so true. michello Dec 2016 #10
I would suggest get involved with your union ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #11
Workers voting for a man on record as stiffing workers... Orsino Dec 2016 #8
It's like the working class has lined up... Adrahil Dec 2016 #9
Trump was against Obama's TPP (Hillary called it the gold standard before evolving) Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #14
Oh, but they kept that nasty woman from getting to the White House! hamsterjill Dec 2016 #15
You are trying hard. JTFrog Dec 2016 #16

kimbutgar

(23,329 posts)
1. I guess they will be happy they voted for orange hitler when the union contracts are voided
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:20 PM
Dec 2016

By congressional legislation.

NewJeffCT

(56,840 posts)
3. right to work for everybody
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:02 PM
Dec 2016

"Your union contract is voided, but you now have the freedom to work for $12/hour instead of your union negotiated $25/hour. But, thank goodness you don't have to pay a few bucks a week in union dues. Of course, those extra bucks (and then some) will be erased by your health insurance premiums going up 20% while your lifetime coverage limits return and you can't cover your kid in college anymore since she's too old."





 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Same crap happened with
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:49 PM
Dec 2016

Reagan. And we now know how that worked out for those Thousands of Teamster who voted for more road blocks against Union organizer's . People soon forget History Lessons do they not.

We coined it the Joe Six Pack Voter,guns god and gays,and the real kicker,sure does not look like the America I grew up in. Go figger!

Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
12. Husband was a
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:14 PM
Dec 2016

Teamster union member at the time Reagan was elected and the Teamsters supported him.

We did not, but there was a lot of hatred for Carter even from good union members, sad time.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Agree with the hatred of Carter.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:20 PM
Dec 2016

Breaking up the ICC was a tough one for many of our Members. We lost several thousand Member Jobs when the Airlines were deregulated. And that one is still a sour spot yet today.

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
4. Wall Street Democrats..
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:22 PM
Dec 2016

haven't been very good for union members, and Republican business owners who closed factories and offshored their manufacturing haven't been very good for the white collar workers who used to be the Republican base.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
6. Wisconsin proud Union State
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:46 PM
Dec 2016

now has 7% unions. Thanks Walker and Cheeto will do the same for the country. We were the petri dish,along with LA and KS.

RobinA

(10,156 posts)
7. I'm A Union Member
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:46 AM
Dec 2016

I voted for Hillary. My union is a very large one that represents many low paid workers. I don't know how the union came out in the vote, but I do know some things. I have not always been a union member, but came to a union position after 30 years of nonunion. I was always very pro-union. That said, I am appalled at the total lack of attention my union gives to its members. Frankly, I have no idea what they do all day. They complain about lack of membership at my workplace, but where are they? I had to seek them out in order to join. They seem to spend as little time as possible communicating with us. Kind of like our management. If this is the way other large unions act? Unionism is dead and they brought it on themselves. They do not use their position to educate their workers.

ismnotwasm

(42,463 posts)
11. I would suggest get involved with your union
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:24 AM
Dec 2016

What your post tells me is there is lack of member participation--

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Workers voting for a man on record as stiffing workers...
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:47 AM
Dec 2016

...can't help reading like some sort of sexual kink.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. It's like the working class has lined up...
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:19 AM
Dec 2016

To jump into a vat of acid. And they are cheering each other on. It's surreal.

Omaha Steve

(103,522 posts)
14. Trump was against Obama's TPP (Hillary called it the gold standard before evolving)
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:38 PM
Dec 2016

Union homes voted 80% D in 2010. Without that the losses that November would have been much worse!

hamsterjill

(15,512 posts)
15. Oh, but they kept that nasty woman from getting to the White House!
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:45 PM
Dec 2016

They should all be so proud!

Shall we revisit them in two years and find out how that Trump support is working out for them?

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