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pbmus

(12,439 posts)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:25 PM Dec 2016

Nihilistic Glee is The Trumpster

Shortly after the Presidential election, a small piece of good news came over the wire: the Thomas Mann villa in Los Angeles has been saved. The house, which was built to Mann’s specifications in the nineteen-forties, went on the market earlier this year, and it seemed likely to be demolished, because the structure was deemed less valuable than the land beneath it. After prolonged negotiations, the German government bought the property, with the idea of establishing it as a cultural center.

The house deserves to stand not only because a great writer lived there but because it brings to mind a tragic moment in American cultural history. The author of “Death in Venice” and “The Magic Mountain” settled in this country in 1938, a grateful refugee from Nazism. He became a citizen and extolled American ideals. By 1952, though, he had become convinced that McCarthyism was a prelude to fascism, and felt compelled to emigrate again. At the time of the House Un-American Activities Committee’s hearings on Communism in Hollywood, Mann said, “Spiritual intolerance, political inquisitions, and declining legal security, and all this in the name of an alleged ‘state of emergency.’ . . . That is how it started in Germany.” The tearing down of Mann’s “magic villa” would have been a cold epilogue to a melancholy tale.

Mann was hardly the only Central European émigré who experienced uneasy feelings of déjà vu in the fearful years after the end of the Second World War. Members of the intellectual enclave known as the Frankfurt School—originally based at the Institute for Social Research, in Frankfurt—felt a similar alarm. In 1950, Max Horkheimer and Theodor W. Adorno helped to assemble a volume titled “The Authoritarian Personality,” which constructed a psychological and sociological profile of the “potentially fascistic individual.” The work was based on interviews with American subjects, and the steady accumulation of racist, antidemocratic, paranoid, and irrational sentiments in the case studies gave the German-speakers pause. Likewise, Leo Lowenthal and Norbert Guterman’s 1949 book “Prophets of Deceit” studied the Father Coughlin type of rabble-rouser, contemplating the “possibility that a situation will arise in which large numbers of people would be susceptible to his psychological manipulation.”

The Theorists Who Warned of Trump

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-frankfurt-school-knew-trump-was-coming

Unfortunately I have heard too many Trumpster voters say this.

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enough

(13,456 posts)
1. Adorno's "The Authoritarian Personality" was the most influential thing I read in college,
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:53 PM
Dec 2016

many decades ago.

A quote from Adorno from the article linked in the OP:

Lies have long legs: they are ahead of their time. The conversion of all questions of truth into questions of power, a process that truth itself cannot escape if it is not to be annihilated by power, not only suppresses truth as in earlier despotic orders, but has attacked the very heart of the distinction between true and false, which the hirelings of logic were in any case diligently working to abolish.

pbmus

(12,439 posts)
2. Some scary times .. Fasten your seatbelt and be alert..
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:56 PM
Dec 2016

I am sorry that we will have to question everything and everybody.. The truth will not be clear anymore.

JustinL

(722 posts)
3. An overlooked factor in the election results. I was just about to post this article myself.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:33 PM
Dec 2016

I was particularly struck by this passage:

At some point over the summer, it struck me that the greater part of the media wanted Trump to be elected, consciously or unconsciously. He would be more “interesting” than Hillary Clinton; he would “pop.” That suspicion was confirmed the other day, when a CNN executive, boasting of his network’s billion-dollar profit in 2016, spoke of “a general fascination that wouldn’t be the same as under a Clinton Administration.” Of the clouds and shadows that hung over Clinton in the press, the darkest, perhaps, was the prospect of boredom. Among voters, a kind of nihilistic glee may have been as much a factor in Trump’s election as economic dissatisfaction or racial resentment.

pbmus

(12,439 posts)
4. Exactly, most of the Trumpster voters I have spoken with
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:38 PM
Dec 2016

See trump as the change everything guy...

JustinL

(722 posts)
5. "Things need to be shaken up. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad."
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:48 PM
Dec 2016

I don't remember the exact words, but that was the essence of something said by a Trump supporter who works in my building.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,699 posts)
6. Yeah, read comments on cesspools like liveleak and even YouTube.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:56 PM
Dec 2016

It's becoming obvious even to them Trump was full of shit. They don't care. Because "burn it down"

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