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Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:31 PM Dec 2016

I know that some of you aren't keen on Palmer Report updates, but here goes another update for MI

I've been getting them regularly sent to my email. So -- read them at your own discretion.


New post on Palmer Report

With Michigan hand recount underway, Jill Stein focuses on “blank” ballots in Detroit
by Bill Palmer
Just twelve hours after a midnight ruling from a federal judge who announced that a statewide recount in Michigan must immediately proceed, the recounting of the votes in th state is officially underway. This is the second 2016 recount which has been successfully trigged by third party candidate Jill Stein. She appeared in front of Trump Tower today, subverting the media's seeming desire to only want to cover his antics instead of the crucial recount effort, and she revealed a number of key details about the Michigan recount while standing on his doorstep.

The first major revelation from Jill Stein today was her confirmation that the votes will be recounted by hand statewide, per the judge's order. Last night's reports hadn't specified whether it would be done by hand or by machine. This process is far more likely to uncover machine errors and irregularly filled out ballots, as well as to expose any potential cheating or rigging within the state. Stein also made clear that her focus is on the unusually large number of "blank" or "undervote" ballots in the state, particularly in the Detroit area.

We reported last week that according to official tallies as many as 87,810 voters in Michigan had ballots which cast a vote for some downticket race but not for president. This number was far higher than in past elections, and stood out as being particularly odd when one considers that 2016 was the rare year in which Michigan had neither a Governor not a Senate race on the ballot – begging the question of why so many people would show up and vote, but leave the presidential ballot blank.

Stein is now focused on these "undervote" ballots as well, which she pointed out during today's press conference (source link: Stein's official Facebook page), came largely from areas like Detroit and Wayne County, which are heavily African-American. It raises the question of whether faulty machines in low income precincts may have simply failed to record the presidential votes on those ballots, or if those votes may have been intentionally scuttled. The now-underway hand recount should expose any such instances. Wayne County went heavily for Hillary Clinton, but not at the level expected, suggesting, some of Clinton's votes may have indeed been scuttled.

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I know that some of you aren't keen on Palmer Report updates, but here goes another update for MI (Original Post) Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 OP
Thanks for posting them. Those that don't like it can ignore them. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #1
Exactly, Agador! Cha Dec 2016 #14
Thanks for the updates. steventh Dec 2016 #2
Miracles happen every day. n/t tavernier Dec 2016 #3
What is the objection you cited? Who is denigrating this source and why? byronius Dec 2016 #4
Agree. I like Palmer report. N/t California_Republic Dec 2016 #6
In response to some other Palmer Report updates I posted, there was a flurry of responses Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #10
Fascinating. Makes one wonder. byronius Dec 2016 #11
Thank You! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #5
Nothing wrong with Palmer report to me! Keep posting! lonestarnot Dec 2016 #7
Lots of black people show up to vote in a Presidential election and choose not to for President. Botany Dec 2016 #8
Thanks for the updates! TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #9
Greg Palast was on Hartmanns show this morning and he pretty much laid out turbinetree Dec 2016 #12
Every Republican secretary of state needs to be in the crosshairs, BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #13
I love that you're doing this, Farmgirl.. Cha Dec 2016 #15
hmm, sounds somewhat promising. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #16
we will see heaven05 Dec 2016 #17
You know, blue-wave Dec 2016 #18

Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)
10. In response to some other Palmer Report updates I posted, there was a flurry of responses
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:12 PM
Dec 2016

regarding the accuracy of these reports...thus my disclaimer.

byronius

(7,608 posts)
11. Fascinating. Makes one wonder.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:53 PM
Dec 2016

I haven't seen any reason to discredit the report; the guy's been on several shows I listen to, and he sounds quite credible.

You know, either a lot of people feel too much fear at the prospect of mass election fraud to allow the dialogue to continue, or someone who doesn't belong here is attempting to quash the dialogue.

Either way, thank you for the post. Keep it up.

Botany

(72,515 posts)
8. Lots of black people show up to vote in a Presidential election and choose not to for President.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:59 PM
Dec 2016

Do I need to add this?


Trump has cheated and or been in trouble his whole life (his military school was
reform school for rich kids) so why would anybody think he wouldn't cheat in this
election.


Oh BTW according to Greg Palast "cross check" was run in 30 states and every swing state that had
republican control went to Trump except for VA which has democratic leadership.


* Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.

Starting in 2013 – just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act – a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOP–controlled states.

The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
“The GOP’s Stealth War on Voters,” 8/24/2016.

Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393

On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including “Caging,” “purging,” blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to “provisional” ballots that will never be counted.


http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/

turbinetree

(25,303 posts)
12. Greg Palast was on Hartmanns show this morning and he pretty much laid out
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:59 PM
Dec 2016

what needs to be done, less than 1% margin of victory in three states plus I think three more states needs to be questioned, something is just not right, and all three states are run by sec of state republicans that says it all, when compared to democratic sec of state elections, that is just a plain fact.


 

BlueProgressive

(229 posts)
13. Every Republican secretary of state needs to be in the crosshairs,
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 07:37 PM
Dec 2016

but especially that son-of-a-bitch Kris Kobach.

blue-wave

(4,488 posts)
18. You know,
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 04:04 PM
Dec 2016

all the criticism of Palmer Report makes me want to read it more. When someone tells me to ignore information, I take a look at it. My reason, sometimes there is something there and someone is trying to sweep something under the carpet. I was raised with critical thinking skills and will decide for myself what I consider to be bullshit.

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