2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMy email to Electoral College Electors - got a reply back...yay!
The reply back:Dearest <myname>,
Thank you so very Much for taking part and being active in our Form of government. You are correct in accordance with our founders the Electoral College was established to prevent such abuse of Political power. It would ensure that in our form of Government, which might allow that a simple Majority would never trample on the rights of the minority. After all that is what the best minds that have ever existed in the study of Political and Social society had claimed...that a pure democracy IS the worst form of Government. This is what our Founders feared and sought to prevent.
It's was established long ago that worst form of government is a Democracy😞. The threat where a simple majority can easily and always trample on the rights of any Minority is what our founders were aiming to prevent in establishing our Constitutional Guarantee of a Constitutional Republican Form of Government representation where all Peoples are properly represented. <myname>, This is how our government was established.
This does not mean that is a Republican only rule. For I my friend am not a "Republican" nor am I a "Democrat" these two names have lost their standing,meaning and virtue and that is why America has spoken. I am an American First and foremost! I was born in Mexico, but made in America. I was blessed by the grace of God to be afforded the opportunity to become a True American on Aug 14, 1995. The next year I joined the Army were I have served on and off since on Active Duty, in the National Guard and in the Reserves.
I have received hundred of letters, cards petitions and countless emails like yours which now make me think that this is a well coordinated effort to steal the Election as the safeguards that our Founders emplaced prevented the true unqualified, Unethical, distrustful, self serving person to win the election by a simple majority.
Our established selection of our President gives equal voice to both small and large states. Hence the Electoral System.
I ignored all other request to change my Electoral vote. But to yours; God moved me to respond, not sure if your story is true or if you are part of a grand large attempt to steal an election.
<myname>, please rest assure that the fears you listed will not occur. Don't believe what you are being fed. We as True Americans will not allow that a few master elitist will control all Americans. Trump will not Violate the US Constitution, please now this.
Please refer to Article IV section 4 of our beloved US Constitution. Where it Guarantees that we are not a simple Democracy where a simple Majority can rule and trample on the rights of any Minority. But that the US Constitution Gives us a concrete Guarantee that any Majority can never abuse its power and subjugate its will on any Minority. This applies both ways.
<myname> we are blessed to have a True form of Government in which all citizens despite race, back ground or origins, like me have a true Representation under our Constitutional Republican democracy where all are recognized and represented.
I Promise you <myname>, every little thing will be alright.
Respectfully submitted,
"Deeds Not Words"
Hector Maldonado
Mexican Born... American Made!
Proud American US Army Combat Veteran!
I responded to the Terrorist attacks in NYC on 9-11. I fought for you and almost died but saved by the US Air Force in Afghanistan. I also fought for you in Iraq and other places.
<myname>, we will all be alright, I promise!
HM
Sent from my iPhone
My letter:
Dear Electoral College Electors:
The Electoral College is poised to elect the most unprepared, corrupt, untruthful, intemperate candidate in our entire history, one who appears to be a misogynistic, racist, mentally unstable narcissist. His quick-trigger, authoritarian temper would harm us within and beyond our borders.
The purpose of the Electoral College is to prevent an unqualified demagogue from assuming presidential power. In Alexander Hamiltons words (Federalist No. 68):
This process of election (the Electoral College) affords a moral certainty that the office of President will seldom fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
Now is the time to use this built-in safety mechanism to prevent a very dangerous man from becoming president. Twenty-one states do not restrict which candidate their electors vote for. In these states, it is perfectly legal for electors to vote for the candidate who received more than 2 million more votes and preserve our democracy.
Alexander Hamilton asked that you, the electors, exercise a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements proper to govern [your] choice. Reason should dictate the absolute necessity of keeping Trump out of office.
The majority of American voters (64 million and counting) voted against him. We beg that you do too. This countrys stature in the world, our people, our children, and our future are depending on you.
<myname> mom to two kids, concerned US citizen, Air Force veteran
LisaM
(28,621 posts)Judging from the response you got, I'm guessing there isn't a written test.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)"I have received hundred of letters, cards petitions and countless emails like yours which now make me think that this is a well coordinated effort to steal the Election as the safeguards that our Founders emplaced prevented the true unqualified, Unethical, distrustful, self serving person to win the election by a simple majority."
The way I'm reading it is that he believes those who voted for Hillary Clinton (simple majority) are conducting a "well coordinated effort to steal the election." It reads to me like he is casting his vote for trump.
iluvtennis
(20,884 posts)... But I got another reply that was outrageous calling me a Hillary shrill... Yikes
MichMary
(1,714 posts)it's pretty clear: He will vote for Trump.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,681 posts)Is falling on one set of dead ears.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)This does not mean that is a Republican only rule. For I my friend am not a "Republican" nor am I a "Democrat" these two names have lost their standing,meaning and virtue and that is why America has spoken.
This sounds like some of the ones at work. They always vote republican but are mad at the party. So they say they are independent.
Mike Nelson
(10,291 posts)...you got a reply, congratulations! However, the reply does not sound very encouraging.
Ford_Prefect
(8,202 posts)Trump already has and very clearly intends to as often as he feels like it. This seems written by one of those people for whom all the coded speech read one way only: Trump's. They are completely mesmerized by his act.
Raster
(20,999 posts)...thanks, Elector. Thanks, doublespeak.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Maybe writing is getting through to them. They have to see how unstable his actions are.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html?_r=0
iluvtennis
(20,884 posts)...serious question. Anyone know the process. If they deliberate, then maybe some can change. BUT from all I've read, the electors are aligned along parties and strictly vote that way. I've learned in this election our democracy has some serious flaws that need to get fixed.
DetlefK
(16,459 posts)That sounds awfully like parroting right-wing talking-points. "Not a Republican" my ass.
We as True Americans will not allow that a few master elitist will control all Americans.
HOW CAN THE ELECTOR GUARANTEE THIS????
Trump will not Violate the US Constitution, please now this.
HOW CAN THE ELECTOR KNOW THIS?????
But that the US Constitution Gives us a concrete Guarantee that any Majority can never abuse its power and subjugate its will on any Minority. This applies both ways.
Well, how about a guarantee that the minority will never abuse its power and force its will onto the majority????????
we will all be alright, I promise!
Translated: "Just give Trump a chance. What do you have to lose?"
JudyM
(29,517 posts)boston bean
(36,495 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)"...the safeguards that our Founders emplaced prevented the true unqualified, Unethical, distrustful, self serving person to win the election by a simple majority."
"Please refer to Article IV section 4 of our beloved US Constitution. Where it Guarantees that we are not a simple Democracy where a simple Majority can rule and trample on the rights of any Minority"
Why are you cheering?
iluvtennis
(20,884 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Some of them are pushing Kasich, who never got a single vote, over the popular vote winner.
How moronically partisan can you get?
BlueInPhilly
(971 posts)He has made up his mind. Majority = bad, minority = equal protection. Nothing on the qualification to be elected a president.
Very condescending reply.