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C Moon

(12,565 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:38 AM Dec 2016

CNN: town in Kentucky votes Republican after 144 years of voting Democrat

Last edited Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

This was a segment on CNN while I was at the gym.
The volume was down, so I was reading the text on the screen.
Supposedly, this town or county in Kentucky, has voted Democratic for 144 years.
This year, it went for Trump.

They interviewed some of the town folk. They were all obviously senior citizens. By appearance they weren't well off.
Each one said they'd voted for Clinton twice and Obama twice, but decided Trump's business sense beat out Hillary in this election.

I don't know if I should cry or shake my head: the GOP is already talking about bringing down Medicare and Social Security, and they aren't even in power yet. Those folks CNN interviewed are going need someone to lift their jaws off the floor, very soon.

What irritates me (along with the dumb fucks that voted for Trump) is that CNN didn't bother asking these previously dedicated Democrats, how they feel about the GOP being in power now, and what they will probably do to SS and Medicare.

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CNN: town in Kentucky votes Republican after 144 years of voting Democrat (Original Post) C Moon Dec 2016 OP
may they get what'scoming to them based on their votes nt msongs Dec 2016 #1
They cant understand. Hunter Rose Dec 2016 #11
Yes. The question is, can we bring them over to our side without dionysus Dec 2016 #15
They will suffer for the next 4 years, maybe that will bring them to their senses. putitinD Dec 2016 #30
Wish I could be a fly on the wall for the jaw dropping. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #2
Keep expecting the fluff (see porn definition of "fluffer") pieces to continue Lithos Dec 2016 #3
That's true. I haven't watched the news or read the newspapers since the election. C Moon Dec 2016 #5
I think you can say "fellatio" in its various forms here. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #26
The media fucked those people. geomon666 Dec 2016 #4
I couldn't agree more. And the fact is, he's a horrible businessman. C Moon Dec 2016 #6
Not to mention a perpetrator of fraud and otherwise a liar Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #9
And they're fucking us all again showing crap like this to prove "conclusions" they already scripted bettyellen Dec 2016 #8
they probably ONLY get FOX news and don't have any other access to the outside world. putitinD Dec 2016 #31
I know which town that is. They weren't a progressive bastion really, but it is shocking. DemocraticWing Dec 2016 #7
Yeah, I was thinking about the latter part as well. C Moon Dec 2016 #12
Anything to do with the black guy? world wide wally Dec 2016 #17
Elliot County KY Wabbajack_ Dec 2016 #10
Which is why i don't think they won by coventual voter fraud. They don't dionysus Dec 2016 #13
Yeah, after seeing that on CNN, I am beginning to believe what you said here. C Moon Dec 2016 #14
Someplace the Andromeda Strain MFM008 Dec 2016 #16
Or so they say. How can we know with those paperless electronic machines? n/t pnwmom Dec 2016 #18
I feel as if the Republican/Oligarchical Propaganda machine has won. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #19
More "Trump Democrats" bullshit narrative. duffyduff Dec 2016 #20
The proper term is 'voting Democratic' Trumpocalypse Dec 2016 #21
Welcome to DU and the grammar police. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #24
More than just the grammer police Trumpocalypse Dec 2016 #40
Thanks. Edited. C Moon Dec 2016 #32
If we were to write a nightmarish Hollywood horror this is what we have now BSdetect Dec 2016 #22
CNN had a major role in getting Trump elected mtnsnake Dec 2016 #23
It's the bullshit "Businessman President" narrative that corporations and the M$M have been peddling SaschaHM Dec 2016 #25
because they've been LIED TO about his 'business sense.' elleng Dec 2016 #27
They believe Obama ruined Social Security and Medicare. raging moderate Dec 2016 #28
Coal mining jobs in Kentucky russ1943 Dec 2016 #29
Ah. Didn't know about the coal mining. Thanks. C Moon Dec 2016 #33
No, she did not vow to put coal miners out of business! raging moderate Dec 2016 #35
True. Video of the context enclosed. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #36
Thank you so much! I am just not good with computers. raging moderate Dec 2016 #37
Wasn't the Democratic party the conservative party 140 years ago? Third Doctor Dec 2016 #34
Did ya hear the guy at the end who said he voted for Trump because Hillary is a baby killer. TrekLuver Dec 2016 #38
I was watching with the sound off, I must have trailed off by the time that guy spoke. C Moon Dec 2016 #39

Hunter Rose

(8 posts)
11. They cant understand.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:41 AM
Dec 2016

These people are too inherently stupid to make the connection between their vote and their losses. They are why we are basically fucked. They're the salt of the earth, you know, morons.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
15. Yes. The question is, can we bring them over to our side without
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:17 AM
Dec 2016

Selling our souls in the process? Is it even possible? Remember, being a gullible idiot doesn't make one a bad person by default.

The whole country of germany weren't evil SS stormtroopers, but they got conned by hitler. And that included a lot of intelligent people as well.

It's tempting to call them fucking idiots, because they are, well... fucking idiots. But calling a spade a spade in this case can only hurt is in that regard.

Do you have any ideas?

C Moon

(12,565 posts)
5. That's true. I haven't watched the news or read the newspapers since the election.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:59 AM
Dec 2016

This was a first.
I think you're correct: it was just put in to keep everyone happy until the inauguration.

rzemanfl

(30,289 posts)
26. I think you can say "fellatio" in its various forms here.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:02 PM
Dec 2016

In looking up fluff(er) in the Urban Dictionary I found their word of the day is "Trump ten" that being the weight gained after learning the outcome of the election.

geomon666

(7,516 posts)
4. The media fucked those people.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:49 AM
Dec 2016

If you were someone who saw Trump as a good businessman, you either don't have access to the truth, you aren't interested in the truth, or no one bothered to tell you. That's the job of the media. Remember the Fourth Estate? That's dead, been dead for decades now really and Trump is the fruit that has been born from that death.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,035 posts)
9. Not to mention a perpetrator of fraud and otherwise a liar
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:26 AM
Dec 2016

and a cheat. All facts with evidence to support them that the media should have been harping on instead of Clinton's emails 24/7.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. And they're fucking us all again showing crap like this to prove "conclusions" they already scripted
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:24 AM
Dec 2016

Anything to smooth things over and take the heat of themselves. They're afraid to offend people by showing the crazy neo-nazi assholes too.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
7. I know which town that is. They weren't a progressive bastion really, but it is shocking.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:15 AM
Dec 2016

In the last 10 years they have completely flipped. Almost 2-1 Democrat to 2-1 Republican. I think there are a lot of reasons: one is just that we (rightfully) don't have the social conservatism that Democrats used to be known for, which I think is some more well off people's only reason for voting. But unfortunately, a lot of the poor people in those areas have just stopped voting, or even gone over to the Republican side. They think we don't care about them either; it's way more complicated than they know, but they voted for Obama twice and things objectively got worse for people in that area. People vote based on really simplistic reasons like that.

Trump ain't gonna make anything better though. We might get a lot of those people back just because Trump makes things worse. Or, and I'm afraid this is Trump's plan, he's gonna go out of his way to prop up the economy (in a way the Republicans never let Obama do) just to get people enough on his side so he can enact some tyrannical nonsense. That's exactly what Hitler did.

C Moon

(12,565 posts)
12. Yeah, I was thinking about the latter part as well.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:10 AM
Dec 2016

They have full control, so they can play for a couple years. Make things nice; win more seats in the house and senate in 2018, then start in on total control.

Wabbajack_

(1,300 posts)
10. Elliot County KY
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:36 AM
Dec 2016

It voted 65% for McGovern, 73% for Mondale. 70% for John Kerry in 2004.

Obama won it in 2008 with only 61%, which might have been the lowest percentage in county history up till then. Then the racist backlash, in 2012 it only narrowly held for Obama by 2.5 points.

And Trump won 70%.

It was the only majority White county in the south that had never voted Republican. It's almost entirely White.

Ironically the county seat is called Sandy Hook.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
13. Which is why i don't think they won by coventual voter fraud. They don't
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:11 AM
Dec 2016

Need election fraud when they can cheat by convincing people to vote against their own self interest. At this, the rethugs are fucking masters, sadly...

Imagine if they put that kind of effort into, say, actually improving the cointry...

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
19. I feel as if the Republican/Oligarchical Propaganda machine has won.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:59 AM
Dec 2016

I don't have any answers for why this occurred, but my thought is that we have some very ignorant people living in our rural areas of the U.S. They watch FOX news, they don't read newspapers, and when it comes to politics, they only pay attention during a general election. They do not believe that their participation in governing their cities, their states nor their country, will have any significance in the quality of their lives. The vote for Trump was rebellion against what they construe as the 'establishment' and therefore change will come. There in for a huge disappointment.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
20. More "Trump Democrats" bullshit narrative.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:47 AM
Dec 2016

The media are so predictable.

I am sure there were far more "Clinton Republicans."

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
40. More than just the grammer police
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 06:17 AM
Dec 2016

The right refuses to say Democratic party. They shorten it as a pejorative. We shouldn't be doing the same. That only helps them.

BSdetect

(9,047 posts)
22. If we were to write a nightmarish Hollywood horror this is what we have now
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:30 PM
Dec 2016

The mind boggles at how stupid people can be.

Exploited to vote against their own needs.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
23. CNN had a major role in getting Trump elected
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:45 PM
Dec 2016

All during the campaigns, they gave him a platform to lie, lie, lie, and lie, and not once did they ever call him on any of it. All they did to follow up on Trump's messages was provide the viewers with silly panels, Democrats on one side telling the facts and Republicans on the other side of the panel getting equal time to lie through their teeth with nothing ever being done by CNN to call them on it. If the TV media did their jobs honestly, maybe those folks in that Kentucky town would have cast their votes for the truth instead of for a liar.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
25. It's the bullshit "Businessman President" narrative that corporations and the M$M have been peddling
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:58 PM
Dec 2016

It doesn't matter if we have better proposals for the economy, the M$M will often give deference to the bullshit narrative that republicans are better for the economy and that running a business is preparation for running the country. This doesn't even take into account the lack of scrutiny that they actually give the businesses. They trade that same shit with Romney, but he managed to sink himself with the 47% remarks.

elleng

(136,271 posts)
27. because they've been LIED TO about his 'business sense.'
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:02 PM
Dec 2016

From that point of view, it makes sense for them.

raging moderate

(4,504 posts)
28. They believe Obama ruined Social Security and Medicare.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:02 PM
Dec 2016

I don't know what arcane logic they are following this time. The Republicon lies are proliferating wildly.

russ1943

(618 posts)
29. Coal mining jobs in Kentucky
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
Dec 2016

One factor that turned them away from the Democratic candidate for the first time: Hillary Clinton’s vow to put a lot of coal miners out of business.

raging moderate

(4,504 posts)
35. No, she did not vow to put coal miners out of business!
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:53 PM
Dec 2016

That quote was taken out of context and run again and again relentlessly in Republicon ads, clipped from a policy speech about the probable future of the human species on Planet Earth. The word "we" in her speech clearly referred to the future actions of our species, on a planet where the coal reserves will eventually run out, and where mining coal will soon become increasingly dangerous to us all. She clearly advocated for the coal miners in that speech, urging everyone to think of phasing out the coal miner profession gradually with honor and with assistance into other professions where they could use their abilities and skills to win good incomes and build good lives.

raging moderate

(4,504 posts)
37. Thank you so much! I am just not good with computers.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
Dec 2016

I can see the truth, but cannot prove it. So maddening!

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
34. Wasn't the Democratic party the conservative party 140 years ago?
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:49 PM
Dec 2016

When we got into the mid 20th century the party ideologies started to shift. It just took longer before these conservative "democrats" to catch up with the rest of the country. CNN as usual reports are biased without context. Seeing Obama in the White House woke them up to their true conservative or bigoted leanings. Voting for a woman president? Just as bad or worse than Obama in a lot of their opinions.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
38. Did ya hear the guy at the end who said he voted for Trump because Hillary is a baby killer.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:17 PM
Dec 2016

That was another lie that was spread and took root and grew. Hillary supports an abortion a moment before birth. Totally spread and lied about out of context. This guy is a Democrat...he hates Hillary the baby killer? An anti choice Democrat? It was very odd.

C Moon

(12,565 posts)
39. I was watching with the sound off, I must have trailed off by the time that guy spoke.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:07 PM
Dec 2016

That's just crazy!!
I hope they enjoy the next years ahead of them. :O

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