2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf they release hacking intelligence to the electors,
They need to release it to everyone.
There is no way they could overturn the results without showing the same evidence to the American public. No way at all.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)You can do whatever you want and just say 'national security'.
It worked for him.
B2G
(9,766 posts)"We released some super secret info to the electors, who had zero security clearance, and they decided to overturn the election results, but we can't tell you what we showed them and why they made the decision they did".
Yeah. That'll fly.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)SlimJimmy
(3,251 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)Their job is to vote for the person who won the electoral votes in their state. I do not want to set precedent for electors deciding to overturn the will of the people (however flawed or rigged the elections were). Otherwise, we'll have a democracy where elections mean nothing and 535 members of the electoral college can appoint whomever they want as POTUS.
Ligyron
(7,899 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)Trump cannot do away with elections in 2020 no matter what he does. Our "democracy" is too deeply rooted
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)not to mention the GOP is in power and would go along with it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)marybourg
(13,191 posts)as envisioned by the founders, is to use their judgment and experience to prevent a unfit person from becoming President; just such an event as we have now.
Unfortunately, over the 2+ centuries of non-use they have become nothing more than a rubber stamp. But that's a by-product of human nature; it's not their job. And they can't appoint "anyone". They can only appoint one of the 3 highest vote getters.
We are going through just the type of process our Constitution mandates. But the result is, sadly, inevitable. That doesn't mean we shouldn't go through it.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)due to russian hacking. Then schedule a new election within 2 weeks. Its the only fair way to resolve these issues.
ChetSinger
(14 posts)Really? If the RNC didn't keep their computers secure and their laundry got aired out and Trump lost, should they ask for a do-over?
Now, if the Russians were ever able to corrupt a state's votes and swing it then I'd agree with you. But that's not what I've been hearing.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)drip drip drip. Completely turned the election.
ChetSinger
(14 posts)I wouldn't give him one.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)So yes Obama needs to declare it null and void.
B2G
(9,766 posts)Jean-Jacques Roussea
(475 posts)As much as they like to falsely equate them: Trump=/=Clinton. If someone convinced 60 million Americans that we should nuke our entire country so we could all go to the rapture; I would support any and all circumstances to perpetuate my "nuclear bombs don't send you to heaven" platform.
Trump voters are mindscrubbed and we need to protect them from themselves at this point like someone who has a concussion.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The bad guys, however, only released the DNC emails. Guess why.
Ace Rothstein
(3,299 posts)Joe941
(2,848 posts)I'm sure his lawyers could find one of those powers to do so with.
B2G
(9,766 posts)and result in a civil war.
Is that what you want?
Ace Rothstein
(3,299 posts)Anything Obama, who isn't going to do anything, would try would be struck down by the courts immediately.
marybourg
(13,191 posts)The Constitution provided for the only remedy: the Electoral Collage selects a different candidate. Failing that, the next opportunity is impeachment, also provided for in the Constitution.
It's interesting reading. You might want to take this opportunity to re-read it.
B2G
(9,766 posts)That our response is to tamper with our election.
red dog 1
(29,364 posts)He could have declared the election null & void, due to Russian hacking, and then rescheduled a new election.
Instead, he called Hillary early in the AM on Nov. 9th and suggested that she should concede.
I wonder why he did that?
Because he wanted a "smooth transition"?
As a Democrat, I feel betrayed by President Obama's lack of action after this cyber-attack by a foreign nation.
Putin got exactly what he wanted; and Obama did nothing about it.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,366 posts)could President Obama have done any of what you say he should do?
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,600 posts)onenote
(44,699 posts)Your approach to saving the Constitution is to tear it up.
marybourg
(13,191 posts)It would constitute a coup and would be put down by force.