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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 05:53 PM Sep 2016

AR-15/M16: The Rifle That Was Never Supposed to Be

Anytime a gun owner says the AR15 isnt an assault rifle or was never used in war show them this article.
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http://www.gundigest.com/article/the-ar-16m16-the-rifle-that-was-never-supposed-to-be

This article is an excerpt from the Gun Digest Book of Classic Combat Rifles.

IN MARCH OF 1965, the first U.S. troops landed in Vietnam. They were carrying the M14 rifle, chambered for the 7.62×51mm NATO (M80 Ball) cartridge, which had a detachable 20-round magazine and was capable of semi- and full-automatic fire. The military soon learned the M14 on full auto was extremely difficult to control; most burst fire was ineffective.
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The AR-15 made use of high-impact fibrite stocks, pistol grips and handguards. A selector lever on the left side of the rifle could be manipulated with the shooter’s right thumb without removing the hand from the pistol grip. The magazine release, on the right side of the receiver, could be operated with the trigger finger; when pressed, the magazine would drop free.

A fresh magazine, requiring no camming — or ‘rocking’ — could be inserted straight into the magazine well. This attribute contributed significantly to speedy reloading in combat situations compared to its closest rival, the AK47/AKM. These are two of the main reasons why the AR-15/M16-series rifles are considered the finest human-engineered assault rifles in the world.
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Fortunately, Defense Secretary McNamara was fond of the AR-15, knew the Ordnance Corps was dragging its feet on the weapon and on January 23, 1963, halted all procurements of the M14. Finally, in 1964, Defense Secretary McNamara ordered the Ordnance Corps to work with all branches of the armed forces to get the AR-15 ready for issue to all military personnel…one rifle for all branches. The Army purchased 100,000 rifles for issue to the Air Assault, Airborne, Ranger and Special Forces units.

After the AR15 — now, the M16 rifle — went into circulation, more was learned about how to improve the rifle. The rifling twist was changed from 1:14 inches to 1:12 inches. The Army wanted a manual bolt closure device added so, if the bolt failed to lock, it could be manually closed — and the forward assist assembly was born. The firing pin was lightened to prevent slam-fires (caused by the inertia of the firing pin when the bolt closed on a round). The buffer was changed from the original hollow version to one with weights in it to prevent the bolt from bouncing back when it slammed into the barrel extension.

On November 4, 1963, Colt was awarded a contract worth $13.5 million dollars for the procurement of 104,000 rifles … the legendary “One Time Buy.” Of those rifles, 19,000 were M16s for the Air Force and 85,000 were the XM16E1 (with the bolt closure device/forward assist assembly) for the Army and Marines. The XM16E1 was adopted as the M16A1 rifle. Steps were taken to procure ammunition.

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AR-15/M16: The Rifle That Was Never Supposed to Be (Original Post) ErikJ Sep 2016 OP
But, but, but... Jerry442 Sep 2016 #1
Or, its just a 22 caliber plinking gun. ErikJ Sep 2016 #2
That's it. Just a "modern-designed sporting rifle." Paladin Jan 2017 #7
I'm bookmarking this for future reference flamin lib Sep 2016 #3
So, if a designer can design this: Jerry442 Sep 2016 #4
whats your opinion of the mini 14? wincest Jan 2017 #5
22 posts and you billh58 Jan 2017 #6

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
1. But, but, but...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 06:11 PM
Sep 2016

I heard that AR-15s are not really much different from Great-Grampa's squirrel rifle.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
3. I'm bookmarking this for future reference
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:21 PM
Sep 2016

There has never been any real doubt about the AR being an assault rifle. It has been marketed as such from the beginning. It was only after the general public began to recognize it for the threat it is that the NRA launched a major marketing campaign to change the name from Assault Weapon to Popular Sporting Rifle.

The basic characteristics of a modern Assault Weapon are: Small and light weight--small enough to possibly be concealable under a coat.

High cyclic rate of fire. The AR can cycle, without a bumpfire modification, at 100 rounds a minute quite easily. Alan Lansing fired more than 500 rounds in less than 5 minutes. With a bumpfire stock up to 500 rounds per minute.

Rapidly interchangeable high capacity magazines.

If something is to be banned these are the characteristics to ban, not some description or list of model designations.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
4. So, if a designer can design this:
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 11:57 AM
Sep 2016
...The magazine release, on the right side of the receiver, could be operated with the trigger finger; when pressed, the magazine would drop free.

A fresh magazine, requiring no camming — or ‘rocking’ — could be inserted straight into the magazine well.


Why couldn't one design a gun with magazines that couldn't be swapped out without maneuvering the gun way out of the firing position and using both hands in such a way that the whole operation would take at least, say, 90 seconds -- and then legally mandate that in new guns.

Hell, they can do that with childproof caps on medicine bottles. Why not guns?

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