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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:17 PM Apr 2014

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) hrmjustin Apr 2014 OP
Who would do that and why? I know, too many. And you are not but understandable why you would uppityperson Apr 2014 #1
Lol I need the break and when I return I think I need to just not play into their hands. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #2
Meh. I get it, but... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #3
Oh I will go back to the group but I need to consider how I engage the group and who to hrmjustin Apr 2014 #4
Just not answering is actually a neat tactic... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #6
Yeah I think I will just not answer a few of them and keep the one I have on ignore on ignore. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #8
Understandable why you would want to take a break. No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #5
Thank you my friend. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #7
Yes, I think I am going to join you. TM99 Apr 2014 #9
So sorry you got a hide. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #10
It is my own fault. TM99 Apr 2014 #11
. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #12
Ironic - I think all on my ignore list are from the "religion" group. No Vested Interest Apr 2014 #19
His post was hidden(4-3) so he won't be posting any more in that thread. Leontius Apr 2014 #20
Finally a jury gets it right. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #25
That is some comfort. TM99 Apr 2014 #29
Not a bad idea Leontius Apr 2014 #13
It is very difficult to respond to a bunch of people who think your ill or deluded. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #14
That is, of course, their goal. rug Apr 2014 #15
Oh I will be back soon but I am just going to step away for a bit. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #17
Ugly, Stupid and Whiney. New names for the Three Leontius Apr 2014 #21
Lol, there's also one peddler of abstracts who's simply Clueless. rug Apr 2014 #22
Every time I read one of his posts I just think wtf Leontius Apr 2014 #23
I'll put the truth in packaging disclaimer right up front. okasha Apr 2014 #26
Are you delusional and ill, justin? cbayer Apr 2014 #16
Absolutely! hrmjustin Apr 2014 #18
Feels good to not post there but I chose not to trash it. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #24
This is a good place. okasha Apr 2014 #27
Indeed but I will go back to the other room eventually. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #30
Good advice. Thank you and I will be back but i0as I said I will pick my battles hrmjustin Apr 2014 #31
I am doing the same thing for the same reason. Fortinbras Armstrong Apr 2014 #32
Of course they will say these things. They know it irritates us. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #33
My days are calmer not engaging them about being deluded or ill. hrmjustin May 2014 #34
It has been a week since I stopped posting in that room. hrmjustin May 2014 #35

uppityperson

(115,871 posts)
1. Who would do that and why? I know, too many. And you are not but understandable why you would
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:23 PM
Apr 2014

let them be to get away from the aggravation.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. Lol I need the break and when I return I think I need to just not play into their hands.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:25 PM
Apr 2014

I wish them well.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Meh. I get it, but...
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:50 PM
Apr 2014

take just a little blame for taking these people too seriously.

Typical argument:

"You're a monkey."

"I am not a monkey."

"Prove you are not a monkey."

"Huh? Why?"

"Aha! I win!"

Ever since the old froups, the first one to walk away from an argument was the loser. Stupid, but it worked that way. And there was nothing nice about unmoderated newsgroups-- I was once called a rapist in one thread and that thread always popped up on a google search of my name.

Anyway, as always, consider the source.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
4. Oh I will go back to the group but I need to consider how I engage the group and who to
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:53 PM
Apr 2014

just not answer and who to put on ignore.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. Just not answering is actually a neat tactic...
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:58 PM
Apr 2014

keeps them guessing, and eventually they give up. Meanwhile, everyone else reading the thread sees them in not such a good light.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
8. Yeah I think I will just not answer a few of them and keep the one I have on ignore on ignore.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:01 PM
Apr 2014

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
5. Understandable why you would want to take a break.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 12:57 PM
Apr 2014

There are too many unreasonable people on some of these threads.
They feel the need to argue and be generally unpleasant and rude.
Some need to convince others of what they believe or don't believe, not respecting the rights and space of others.

I thank you, Justin, for your contributions to the religion room as well as the interfaith and Catholics and other Orthodox etc. rooms.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. Thank you my friend.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:00 PM
Apr 2014

Some in there just don't want a debate so I am not going to feed into it.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
9. Yes, I think I am going to join you.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:03 PM
Apr 2014

I just got a post hidden, and I am sicking of having my buttons pushed by the usual offenders. Call a person a 'smart ass' when they are being one, and you get the post hidden. Call a person delusional and mentally ill, and there are apparently no consequences.

I will hopefully enjoy some discussions with you here and elsewhere.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
10. So sorry you got a hide.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:04 PM
Apr 2014

The jury system gets it wrong too many times.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
11. It is my own fault.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:08 PM
Apr 2014

I fell for the bait. The smart-alecky dig and the 'gotcha' debating tactics push even the most calm and rational persons buttons after awhile.

Thanks though.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
12. .
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:21 PM
Apr 2014

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
19. Ironic - I think all on my ignore list are from the "religion" group.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 04:42 PM
Apr 2014

Also another aspect of irony -It never fails to strike me that haters and baiters of religion frequent the "religion" group.
In a way they're like trolls.

I've never tolerated incivility in my everyday life, and since DU is now part of my everyday life, I've found it easier to just ignore, both literally and figuratively.

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
20. His post was hidden(4-3) so he won't be posting any more in that thread.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 04:44 PM
Apr 2014

At least this time calling a fellow DUer mentally ill did have consequences.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
25. Finally a jury gets it right.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:15 PM
Apr 2014

Not my alert but a good result.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
29. That is some comfort.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 12:17 AM
Apr 2014

It is just so frustrating. There is only a small group that really pushes that meme. But they are vocal as hell and then they receive tacit approval for it from another cabal that play word games.

Ah well.....

 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
13. Not a bad idea
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:48 PM
Apr 2014

I've pretty much given up on meaningful discussions there but I can't resist jerking a certain groups chains.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
14. It is very difficult to respond to a bunch of people who think your ill or deluded.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:51 PM
Apr 2014
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
15. That is, of course, their goal.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:18 PM
Apr 2014

They've been getting more blowback than they can handle.

There's a small core there that prefer it to be a place to post cartoons and pictures of Jesus on toast and have a mockfest.

When people don't put up with those antics, they turn ugly, personal, and stupid in rapid fashion.

Oh, and whiney.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
17. Oh I will be back soon but I am just going to step away for a bit.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:46 PM
Apr 2014
 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
21. Ugly, Stupid and Whiney. New names for the Three
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 04:49 PM
Apr 2014

I'll think of those names when I see their posts from now on.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. Lol, there's also one peddler of abstracts who's simply Clueless.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 04:52 PM
Apr 2014
 

Leontius

(2,270 posts)
23. Every time I read one of his posts I just think wtf
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:04 PM
Apr 2014

okasha

(11,573 posts)
26. I'll put the truth in packaging disclaimer right up front.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:32 PM
Apr 2014

I have no formal training in psychology. None. Not even a freshman intro course.

But I do know what narcissism and grandiosity look like, and that one has it BAD.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
16. Are you delusional and ill, justin?
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:40 PM
Apr 2014

I would bet the farm that you are not.

So why let anyone else, particularly someone with absolutely no standing, to say that you are?

When people call me "crazy", that's a showstopper. I might try to point out how offensive, rude and uncivil that is, but the conversation is pretty much over.

Engaging with some people, particularly bullies, is exactly what they want. They will also be able to kick up the nastiness another notch and certainly higher than you are willing to go.

So, take a break. Choose your battles when you return.

Don't feed the trolls.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
18. Absolutely!
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 03:48 PM
Apr 2014

You were right that feeding into them was the wrong choice.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
24. Feels good to not post there but I chose not to trash it.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:13 PM
Apr 2014

Will just practice some self control and stay away and when I come back I will choose my battles.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
27. This is a good place.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:41 PM
Apr 2014

We can certainly have productive discussions here. I know we're a pretty diverse lot who can bring a variety of perspectives to a subject.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
28. Indeed but I will go back to the other room eventually.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:46 PM
Apr 2014

Response to hrmjustin (Original post)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
31. Good advice. Thank you and I will be back but i0as I said I will pick my battles
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:10 AM
Apr 2014

and use ignore.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
32. I am doing the same thing for the same reason.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:48 AM
Apr 2014

But if MellowDem tries to argue that "mentally ill" and "insane" are not synonyms, I shall respond.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
33. Of course they will say these things. They know it irritates us.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:50 AM
Apr 2014
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
34. My days are calmer not engaging them about being deluded or ill.
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:32 PM
May 2014
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
35. It has been a week since I stopped posting in that room.
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:15 AM
May 2014

Still need to stay away because it was unhealthy for me.

I do miss posting in there and hope to come back soon.

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