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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 06:33 PM Jan 2014

Former NSA Whistleblowers Challenge President Obama to Meeting to Expose "9/11" and NSA

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NSA Insiders Reveal What Went Wrong on and before/after "9/11"

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) is a group of current and former officials of the United States Intelligence Community, including some from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the U.S. State Department's Intelligence Bureau (INR), and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). It was formed in January 2003 as a "coast-to-coast enterprise" to protest the use of faulty intelligence "upon which the US/UK invasion of Iraq was based." The group issued a letter before the 2003 invasion of Iraq stating that intelligence analysts were not being listened to by policy makers.


by Former NSA Senior Executives & Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

In a memo to President Obama, former National Security Agency insiders explain how NSA leaders botched intelligence collection and analysis before 9/11, covered up the mistakes, and violated the constitutional rights of the American people, all while wasting billions of dollars and misleading the public.


We were there; we know what happened. And we know how what happened has been successfully covered up – until now. Calamities like this tend to happen again if there is no accountability for what happened before. You need the unvarnished truth. The flood of revelations now in the public domain frees us to address facts and events formerly hidden behind a convenient, cover-up classification regime. We feel bound by the solemn oath we took to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to make truths known to you that you may find as unconscionable as we do.

Why do we still care?
Because we have consciences; because the oath we took has no expiration date; because we know – as few others do – how critically important it is for our country to have a well functioning, Constitution-abiding National Security Agency; and because we know how that ship can be steered back on course at that important place of work by improving its ability to find terrorists and other criminals in massive amounts of data, while protecting the right to privacy and citizen sovereignty.

Getting in the Door

It comes to us as no surprise that there is strong resistance on the part of the Establishment when it comes to giving us a hearing – a shunning of the very people who know what happened and how to take steps to prevent it from happening again.

Our predicament calls to mind that of our colleague veteran intelligence professionals, who were ignored by Official Washington and an obsequious media, when we knew that fraudulent (not mistaken) intelligence was being used to “justify” the launching of an aggressive war on Iraq 11 years ago. Establishment Washington barred the doors in 2002-2003. Just five years later our own clearances were taken away.

Now, once again the voices of seasoned intelligence professionals are being muted, in favor of a closed group of officials with huge incentive to cover up their failure to keep America safe and their playing fast and loose with the Fourth Amendment.

Mr. President, we have given up hope that your palace guard will let us in. Our chances of reaching you seem far better via this Memorandum, the 28th of its kind issued since early 2003, prepared at the behest of the Steering Group of our Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS). If this gets past your in-box protectors, we encourage you to pay more heed to it than your predecessor did to VIPS’ warnings in the months before the attack on Iraq.

In one limited sense, we are better off than our colleagues 11 years ago. This time, mainstream media have been unable to ignore the documentary evidence of rank dishonesty on the part of senior NSA and other intelligence officials. This time the media has come to us, seeking our views. This time we can comment rather freely on matters that until now were hidden under TOP SECRET stamps.

MUCH MORE OF MEMO to PRESIDENT OBAMA...HERE:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/01/08-0

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(Much More...and seems the VIP's are Ready to Talk to the Media if the Metting with PBO doesn't take place)

Will be interesting to see what comes of this since former Senator Phil Ghram seems to have additional info that would back them up. The "TWO PART on REAL NEWS NETWORK is here on PMRG!

VIDEO INTERVIEW, HERE:

Sen. Bob Grahm-"Investigating the Saudi Govt's "9/11" Connection & Path to Dissillusionment"


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1269438

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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. It sounded to me from their Memo to PBO...
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jan 2014

That if he didn't reply...they would "report what they know" and that since Snowden and Grahm and other revelations are already out there...they feel that their Security Agreement Restrictions are no longer valid...since the other info is already out there and they are ready to reveal what they know.

If the President doesn't want to hear it in "confindence" from THEM...then they will leak to the Media...(from which they've already had inquiries) and now they feel free to speak all they know.

That was my read of the article...that they were challenging PBO before they go out there and let what they know get into the Media.

(But, then, perhaps I read too much into their Memo.)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
7. I think you are right. And also, they have more of a platform now than back in the early Bush
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:22 AM
Jan 2014

years. Nearly everyone has access to the internet for one thing, and the younger people now get most of their information online. Whistle Blowers no longer have to depend on the Corporate Media to get their information out. We have easy access to news media from all over the world now.

It would be the right thing to do for the WH to accept their offer. Better yet would be for Congress to meet with them and to hold public hearings.

But while I wish that would happen, I do not believe there is a chance that it will. We were told to move forward from war crimes, from lies about war etc. so it probably won't happen. However, if there was no internet, we would not even know about this.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
4. According to some this is what Snowden should have done. Well? Will we see that this approach is
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 09:12 PM
Jan 2014

futile or will we have a real "sit down" with the President to report the truth of things? What if Snowden had asked to sit down and discuss the abuses of the NSA? I tend to think there would not be a"sit down" or a discussion and there would, at this point in time, be no changes in the NSA on the horizon.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. The more that is revealed the more it show why Snowden had to do what he did...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 09:17 PM
Jan 2014

because he would have ended up like Chesea Manning... and anyone of us old enough to remember the 60's know that's what would have happened to him.

That's why some of us older worry so much about what's going on these days.

I think you are agreeing about how Snowden couldn't have done what Cheney and the Rest are saying he "should have done, " though.

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