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Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:29 AM Oct 15

Trump's 2024 Blueprint for Stealing the White House w/ Greg Palast - Thom Hartmann



Will Trump manipulate the Constitution and the courts to take the presidency without winning the vote?

Two of America's leading progressives have come to the same conclusion. Donald Trump is going to steal the 2024 election on December 11th. Thom Hartmann and Greg Palast explain how to stop him. - Aired on 10/14/2024.

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Trump's 2024 Blueprint for Stealing the White House w/ Greg Palast - Thom Hartmann (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Oct 15 OP
Did I miss something? Frank D. Lincoln Oct 15 #1
Good point, and I saw this as a warning not to repeat the mistakes of the past Rhiannon12866 Oct 15 #4
They cheated before. They'll cheat again. czarjak Oct 15 #2
So What Do We Do if a Corrupt Supreme Court Steps in and awards losing candidate trump the Presidency? MagaSmash Oct 15 #3
Nothing. Frank D. Lincoln Oct 15 #5
Okay bdamomma Oct 18 #6
You seem to be confusing issues. Frank D. Lincoln Oct 18 #7
The whole bdamomma Oct 18 #8
I have a feeling that Frank D. Lincoln Oct 18 #9
Exactly bdamomma Oct 18 #10

Frank D. Lincoln

(607 posts)
1. Did I miss something?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:38 AM
Oct 15

I watched the clip but don't recall them mentioning how to stop this.

Maybe Thom and/or Greg explain it in their related articles, which I haven't read.

But I do have a strong impression that one way or another, Trump and his allies fully expect him to regain the White House, either legitimately or by stealing it. I think they see this as their last chance to force Trumpism on us.

From all that I've read, watched, and learned, I do believe that if Trump regains the White House, he'll (or J.D. Vance will) be much worse, much more brutal and ruthless than Putin and that America will become a much worse place to live than Russia.

But don't worry. If the worst happens, God will settle accounts on Judgment Day.

Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
4. Good point, and I saw this as a warning not to repeat the mistakes of the past
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 05:14 AM
Oct 15

And one more reason, which is what happened in 2020, that the results have to be way too overwhelming for the Republicans to get away with any disruptions or cheating.

Frank D. Lincoln

(607 posts)
5. Nothing.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 05:36 AM
Oct 15

Just as when SCOTUS made their presidential immunity ruling we did nothing, we wouldn't do anything if they give Trump the presidency (in that scenario, I'd love to be proven wrong).

If Trump regains the White House, then America will quickly become a hellscape.

Our only hope is that Kamala Harris wins by an electoral college vote landslide. But even then Republicans might try to steal it.

bdamomma

(66,446 posts)
6. Okay
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 09:41 AM
Oct 18

after reading your post are you saying this is what we will be doing??? No, I believe we should never back down. Just my opinion.

Frank D. Lincoln

(607 posts)
7. You seem to be confusing issues.
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 12:34 PM
Oct 18

What we think should happen is an entirely different thing than what would happen.

For example, in 2000, many Dems thought Gore should have fought SCOTUS when they handed the presidency to GWB. But that's not what happened.

If SCOTUS hands the presidency to Trump, I, personally, wouldn't let them get away with it if I had the power to stop them (but obviously I don't have that power).

bdamomma

(66,446 posts)
8. The whole
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 03:29 PM
Oct 18

situation is horrible. The only thing we all have to do is vote by a very large margin. Thanks for your comments.

Frank D. Lincoln

(607 posts)
9. I have a feeling that
Fri Oct 18, 2024, 06:19 PM
Oct 18

we're going to have the largest voter turnout in U.S. history.

It's just a hunch.

But there's so much at stake with this election that I think enough Americans are sensing it and will collectively vote to defeat Trump once and for all.

If Dems keep the Senate and regain the House that'll be the cherry on top.

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