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Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:25 PM Oct 22

Kelly Breaks Silence: Trump PRAISED HITLER, Has "Fascist" Leanings - Bulwark Takes



Tim Miller takes on John Kelly's recent comments about Donald Trump, including alarming revelations that Trump's praised of Hitler and planned to use the military against American citizens. - 10/23/2024.
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Kelly Breaks Silence: Trump PRAISED HITLER, Has "Fascist" Leanings - Bulwark Takes (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Oct 22 OP
He's been hitting Trump for years. "Hitler's Generals" was reported in 2022. TwilightZone Oct 22 #1
Thanks! And we've known since he first ran that he admired Hitler. What American would vote for that?? Rhiannon12866 Oct 22 #3
Probably those who have never even heard of hitler ailsagirl Oct 23 #8
As I've said before, we're doing a terrible job of teaching history in this country Rhiannon12866 Oct 23 #9
Of course ailsagirl Oct 23 #10
Oh, I know, but the ignorance of history is pretty scary just the same Rhiannon12866 Oct 23 #11
Yes-- I recall having very little history taught in my schools ailsagirl Oct 23 #12
My parents were alive during WWII, but they were just kids - But my.grandparents were certainly affected by it Rhiannon12866 Oct 23 #14
Interesting-- thanks for your post ailsagirl Oct 23 #16
Wilfull ignorance by the mainstream media. Justice matters. Oct 23 #5
Knows more than the American Generals. czarjak Oct 22 #2
No profile in courage, but he is at least opening up bottomofthehill Oct 23 #4
Thank you so much for the background. Rhiannon12866 Oct 23 #6
And thankfully, General Kelly finally is. bottomofthehill Oct 23 #7
How come we don't have a TV ad with Kelly talking about TFG & Fascism? KS Toronado Oct 23 #13
It sounds like he was reluctant to bring it up before now, but just couldn't keep silent any longer. Rhiannon12866 Oct 23 #15
++ appalachiablue Oct 23 #17

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
1. He's been hitting Trump for years. "Hitler's Generals" was reported in 2022.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 11:29 PM
Oct 22

The stuff about "Hitler's Generals" was in the news two years ago.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219595258

He bashed Trump relentlessly in a CNN interview.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly-donald-trump-us-service-members-veterans/index.html

It's amazing how many people seem to have completely forgotten that Kelly has been very outspoken in his opposition to Trump. "Suckers and Losers" ring a bell? That came from Kelly.

I mean, seriously...collective amnesia?

Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
9. As I've said before, we're doing a terrible job of teaching history in this country
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:57 AM
Oct 23

In 10th grade, we had an entire year of World History where both world wars were obviously included. Though none of us were alive during WWII, we'd definitely herd of him before - he was considered synonymous with evil.

Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
11. Oh, I know, but the ignorance of history is pretty scary just the same
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:33 AM
Oct 23

Not to mention, considering his age, TFG must have heard quite a bit about WWII as a kid since his parents would have experienced it as adults.

ailsagirl

(23,802 posts)
12. Yes-- I recall having very little history taught in my schools
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:36 AM
Oct 23

My parents, however, were born and raised in Canada, and you can bet they knew history!!

Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
14. My parents were alive during WWII, but they were just kids - But my.grandparents were certainly affected by it
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:53 AM
Oct 23

My maternal grandparents (immigrants from Poland) operated a neighborhood grocery and, with rationing, my grandfather made sure that his neighbors/customers were fed. And my paternal grandfather died suddenly, so my grandmother had to return to work. She also dealt with rationing, worked for the Office of Price Administration. The difficult part was that my Dad's younger brother was still a preschooler and there was no child care in those days - but she managed too find a kind Jewish group that looked after young kids and they agreed to care for my uncle. That was the grandmother I was closest to so I learned a lot from her - and I definitely heard about Hitler.

bottomofthehill

(8,823 posts)
4. No profile in courage, but he is at least opening up
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 12:05 AM
Oct 23

This article from the post may help us remember who John Kelly really is.

John Kelly is in a bind: The retired four-star general, who served as President Trump’s first homeland security secretary and second White House chief of staff, is at the center of the uproar over reports last week that Trump made disrespectful, sometimes disparaging remarks about U.S. military service members on various occasions, including, according to the Atlantic, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” as he stood with the retired general at the grave of Kelly’s son, a Marine lieutenant killed while serving in Afghanistan.
So far, Kelly won’t confirm or dispute that reporting, leaning on his career of service in the Marine Corps as a reason to stay silent: According to friends and associates, Kelly believes it’s inappropriate for a retired general to speak out against a sitting president in the midst of an election. But, for Kelly, that ship has sailed. He chose to serve in a political capacity, lending the credibility he gained during a lifetime in uniform to Trump’s partisan cause. No one can fault Kelly for wanting to keep his son’s memory out of partisan politics, but it’s too late for Trump’s former top White House adviser to be seriously considered as someone who is politically neutral.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/09/08/john-kelly-trump-military/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_opinions

Rhiannon12866

(222,238 posts)
6. Thank you so much for the background.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 12:16 AM
Oct 23

It's long past time that he spoke out in defense of the country he served.

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