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Stinky The Clown

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34. Nancy Pelosi and LBJ are numbers one and two in the EFFECTIVE LEADER department

Fri Feb 9, 2018, 06:47 PM

Feb 2018

You figure out if she's one or two.

They are both VERY high on my list of favorites. They both have had flaws and shortcomings, but both got more done for Democrats, in aggregate, than anyone else you can think of. Both were brilliant at keeping their caucuses in line and in counting votes

My biggest beef with Pelosi is not going after Bushco when she had the majority.

My beef with LBJ was Viet Nam.

To be sure, both are colossal "shortcomings" but when balanced against their accomplishments . . . . well, as I said, you have to figure it out for yourself and see if you agree.

For the record, I served when LBJ was my commander in chief and in spite of that hold him still in very high regard.

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Nancy Pelosi is incredibly underrated [View all] DonViejo Feb 2018 OP

And this is exactly why the GOPers hate her. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #1

Many Democrats have also underrated her. I've seen so many even here, pnwmom Feb 2018 #4

That's because of character assassination drawn by competence. Hortensis Feb 2018 #27

I wondered if she did the catherter trick. WhiteTara Feb 2018 #5

Nancy Pelosi is doing a great job and is underrated Gothmog Feb 2018 #2

I love Nancy and always have. She is a true master politician. However, she is not a very good OregonBlue Feb 2018 #3

Yes She Is! -nt Anon-C Feb 2018 #6

And she just keeps on getting the job done. She persists... (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #7

Plenty of so-called murielm99 Feb 2018 #8

Plenty of so-called progressives Nonhlanhla Feb 2018 #9

Word. (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #16

Thank you! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #18

... DonViejo Feb 2018 #39

I hear the same about my senator, McCaskill. xmas74 Feb 2018 #28

She is mcar Feb 2018 #10

Yup. The GOP and the loony far leftists make her out to be the evil boogeywoman PeaceNikki Feb 2018 #11

ImWithHer oasis Feb 2018 #12

"Some Democrats are unsatisfied with her leadership..." HenryWallace Feb 2018 #13

You are free to not vote for her. ehrnst Feb 2018 #17

At some point you have to look to performance... HenryWallace Feb 2018 #44

How is that her failing? Can you specify? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #46

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Is there a sale on strawmen on Amazon? ehrnst Feb 2018 #48

Yeah, a 1000 seats lost thanks Cha Feb 2018 #51

Well gee, a man is head of the DCCC - Ben Ray Lujan ehrnst Feb 2018 #53

HenryWallace, WHO on earth told you outsiders should Hortensis Feb 2018 #23

Wowee Zowee Hortensis Me. Feb 2018 #29

Me, the party leadership has a duty to keep control for Hortensis Feb 2018 #30

They're Trying To Turn Nancy Into The New HRC Me. Feb 2018 #31

Yep! "They're" being inimical forces both right and left. Hortensis Feb 2018 #33

Quite Me. Feb 2018 #43

Tremendous ignorance about how our system works, tremendous and it is doing great harm Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #36

:) 600 pages in that bill, and some are willing to Hortensis Feb 2018 #37

What you said, Hortensis Hekate Feb 2018 #42

Your right. HenryWallace Feb 2018 #45

Well, that depends on where you get your information on politics, doesn't it? ehrnst Feb 2018 #49

And she's head of the DCCC, the org charged with down ballot votes ehrnst Feb 2018 #54

Her speakership was incredibly effective as IronLionZion Feb 2018 #14

+1000000 murielm99 Feb 2018 #15

She's effective. She's a woman. She's postmenopausal. She doesn't give a fuck what young white ehrnst Feb 2018 #19

Indeed, a lot of our people don't know how much she's done for us IronLionZion Feb 2018 #20

She doesn't yell, throw spittle or wag her finger ehrnst Feb 2018 #21

... brer cat Feb 2018 #22

... Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #35

Oh, x1000! peggysue2 Feb 2018 #24

I don't think everyone appreciates straight talk, Hortensis Feb 2018 #25

K&R betsuni Feb 2018 #26

K & R!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #32

Nancy Pelosi and LBJ are numbers one and two in the EFFECTIVE LEADER department Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #34

I agree...people talk about Roosevelt and for good reason...but Johnson was amazing and is Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #41

KnR Hekate Feb 2018 #38

She is awesome. I love her. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #40

She is amazing. I hope she runs in 2020 proudp55 Feb 2018 #50

I get to hear her speak tonight Gothmog Feb 2018 #52