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xmas74

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64. From what I remember

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:22 PM

Jul 2012

she was heavily tested. Australia had some problems back in the 80's and 90's-not so far back that it was considered ancient history.

She was tested and heavily so. If there is any suspicion they'll test their samples a few times over-that's what they do in international swimming. Heck, they'll test in junior national swimming.

If you swim too fast the committee wants to know why. That's understandable. If you come from a country with a prior history of not playing by the rules the committee wants to know that everything was on the up-and-up. China has a history of doping-they were found to be using juice back in the mid to late 90's. Some of those in that program back then still have ties.

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UK Olympic Chair announces 16 year old female swimmer "clean". No doping. History made [View all] leveymg Jul 2012 OP

She beat the male time... I think that is what is driving them crazy. hlthe2b Jul 2012 #1

or could be history. and yea her but 5 secs? wow. seabeyond Jul 2012 #2

No drug can make you swim 5 seconds faster that your personal best. leveymg Jul 2012 #6

Except testosterone, dianabol, etc. AngryAmish Jul 2012 #11

All those hormonal drugs work over time. She's been tested and retested for them. leveymg Jul 2012 #16

The human race is evolving. We just might not like what we are evolving into. AngryAmish Jul 2012 #19

We all have personal choices in the directions we take. leveymg Jul 2012 #25

I disagree.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #54

By how much did FLo Jo improve her PB at the 1988 Olympics malaise Jul 2012 #13

You tell me? leveymg Jul 2012 #17

Yup obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #38

what kills me about the East German girls is that they didn't knowingly use steroids WolverineDG Jul 2012 #53

I know, and that's what the Chinese girls do, too obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #55

Correct re Flo Jo malaise Jul 2012 #83

Some countries are just better at masking the drug use obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #39

Several of the men beat her over the last 50m; Lochte was fastest overall muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #30

It's the five seconds, not even that she beat a male. xmas74 Jul 2012 #34

Ian Thorpe improved his PB over 400m by 5 seconds between 15 and 16, to get the world record muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #37

And that too had to be investigated. xmas74 Jul 2012 #59

And she was tested after the race, and passed muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #65

Exactly. xmas74 Jul 2012 #66

You apparently did not even read my post hlthe2b Jul 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author xmas74 Jul 2012 #60

Stephanie Rice JonLP24 Jul 2012 #56

And you know she was heavily tested. xmas74 Jul 2012 #62

I don't know if she was more than ususual JonLP24 Jul 2012 #63

From what I remember xmas74 Jul 2012 #64

If you have information that shows she was tested JonLP24 Jul 2012 #87

No, many countries don't have a clean past. xmas74 Jul 2012 #88

Last night JonLP24 Aug 2012 #90

She beat the male time for the same event? I don't think so Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #57

Why the snark? NPR reported all morning long that her time in the final 50 meters beat hlthe2b Jul 2012 #70

You posted flamebait, that's why mathematic Jul 2012 #71

That's ridiculous.. but if I had meant that, you certainly would have proven the point. hlthe2b Jul 2012 #73

I'm glad you see the validity of my argument. mathematic Jul 2012 #76

Ummm....what did I say that was snark? Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #72

No.. reading comprehension is important. hlthe2b Jul 2012 #75

In your post that I first replied to, you said: Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #77

I didn't specify... that is a long way from your misrepresenting by "filling in' what you wanted me hlthe2b Jul 2012 #78

You didn't secifiy the 50m and I did Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #79

I just heard that she passed all the drug tests. HappyMe Jul 2012 #3

That, unfortunately, means nothing obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #40

Well, then, every other Olympic medal and record means nothing leveymg Jul 2012 #48

I still have doubts. Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #4

Not only are there new designer drugs.. ananda Jul 2012 #8

With a name like "Yay, She Win!" she is well named. nt MADem Jul 2012 #5

Faster than a man; not an American ... earthside Jul 2012 #7

Take the sarcasm off. ananda Jul 2012 #9

bwahahahahahaaa spanone Jul 2012 #12

Just a little gripe here, but sibelian Jul 2012 #85

lol! HappyMe Jul 2012 #14

nope. there would be questions no matter where the swimmer was from. cali Jul 2012 #22

Only the final 50m JonLP24 Jul 2012 #61

Not from me obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #41

Five seconds off her time xmas74 Jul 2012 #36

Awesome swim. bemildred Jul 2012 #10

In other news, Olympic official discovers hotel companion "unclean" jberryhill Jul 2012 #15

Their STILL finding new drugs in L. Armstrong's blood from 10 years ago. IOC resolves this in a day? Romulox Jul 2012 #18

bullshit. totally incongruent with her history. cali Jul 2012 #20

history? spanone Jul 2012 #24

I didn't buy Flo Jo either n/t malaise Jul 2012 #31

Me either, or Marion Jones obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #42

That is a surprise Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #21

If a woman suddenly lifted more weight than a male weightlifting champ... Bonobo Jul 2012 #23

If you look at the improvement in women's times in swimming, the curve is far steeper than for men. leveymg Jul 2012 #27

that too would be obvious... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #58

The people most upset are... Atman Jul 2012 #26

Marion Jones tested clesn, too -- Ye is dirty obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #28

Bob Beamon's World Record Long Jump - 1968 Olympics cleduc Jul 2012 #29

Congratulations to Ye Shiwen. Inspiring performance. KurtNYC Jul 2012 #32

+100 G_j Jul 2012 #33

Thank you. HappyMe Jul 2012 #35

This! Good for her, it was an amazing performance. polly7 Jul 2012 #43

None of that helps her turns Are_grits_groceries Jul 2012 #44

One thing that has changed is training methods bhikkhu Jul 2012 #46

I want to see Bob Costas do those turns. KurtNYC Jul 2012 #47

100% agree obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #49

I've had a few posters here argue with me about how it's sour grapes. xmas74 Jul 2012 #68

Yup obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #74

I am watching Faux, and they discussed this siligut Jul 2012 #82

Congrats to her JonLP24 Jul 2012 #50

Good for her. It was an amazing swim despite the sour grapes. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #51

Sometimes americans can be bad sports. Shame on trying to ruin a young girls reputation. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #52

China has had problems with athletes doping xmas74 Jul 2012 #67

Maybe so but it sure would have been nice if made his complaint to the officials in private. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #69

"It makes the americans look like sour grapes."??? That doesn't make any sense. Romulox Jul 2012 #80

Chill friend, it's just an expression. You are entitled to your opinion OK. Don't make a southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #89

It's not my opinion. It's called "Aesop's Fables". That's where the expression came from. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #91

Thanks for the information southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #92

There was an athlete pulled from Chinese Swim in June xmas74 Jul 2012 #84

Well, obviously that clears everything up. Robb Jul 2012 #81

Good for her. A 5 sec improvement is OUTSTANDING! FarLeftFist Jul 2012 #86