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ancianita

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Sun Mar 14, 2021, 11:34 AM Mar 2021

DEMOCRATS WHO SUPPORT GOVERNOR CUOMO [View all]

As long as cases get built against Democratic leaders, I will throw mine in with the rest, along with my thanks to anyone who reads it to the end.

Executive Branch officials

Joe Biden, President of the United States
State Governors
Phil Murphy, Governor of New Jersey
Gretchen Whitmer, Governor of Michigan
Candidates for the 2021 New York City mayoral election
Andrew Yang, entrepreneur
23 women of NY's General Assembly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo_sexual_harassment_allegations

Why they support Gov Cuomo:
1. They know what Andrew Cuomo’s history is.
2. They know how hard a governor’s job is in the best of times, let alone in a pandemic, dealing with a monster in the White House and an incompetent, corrupt administration.
3. They know that no Democratic leader is perfect.
4. They support Democrats.


I support Democrats who support Democrats.
I support imperfect Democratic leaders like FDR, Clinton, Franken, Biden and Cuomo, who bring their experience and skill to govern, and who do their jobs better than they can please others.
I support allegations, official investigations, full and fair assessments of Democratic leaders.
I support women who file complaints of work place toxicity and harassment to their HR, the EEOC, or police.
I support media who report factual truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.



So do most New Yorkers.
They know that Gov Cuomo has done far more good for them than any single one of his Democratic detractors.
Now, after the worst of a four-year dark time is over, this governor faces the fault finding that eludes other governors who learned from his covid execution models;
they are Democratic governors who in the first pandemic of our lifetimes, made similar, more, and worse mistakes than he.
The learning curve is steep and fraught in a pandemic, and those who come out of it polititcally intact, owe a debt of gratitude to those who led them. The imperfect Democrats who want Cuomo out stand on the shoulders of Gov Cuomo and his advisers, Drs. Fauci and Zucker, who cut a path through the dark.

Governor Cuomo deserves to be understood in the context of his 40-year political pre-covid work:

Pre-covid, Gov Cuomo introduced or supported and signed

— passage of New York's 2011 Marriage Equality Act,
— New York’s 2014 Compassionate Care Act, legalizing medical marijuana.
In response to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting and the 2012 Webster shooting, Cuomo
— signed the NY SAFE Act of 2013, the strictest gun control law in the United States.
— co-founded the United States Climate Alliance, a group of states committed to fighting climate change by following the terms of the Paris Climate Accords.
— the Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act;
— the 2011 restructured tax code that raised taxes for the wealthy and lowered taxes for the middle class;
— 12-week paid family leave along with a gradual increase of the state's minimum wage to $15; and pay equity.

More details on his governing outcomes above…

In 2007, Cuomo was active in a high-profile investigation into lending practices and anti-competitive relationships between student lenders and universities. Specifically, many universities steered student borrowers to a "preferred lender," which resulted in the borrowers' incurring higher interest rates.
This led to changes in lending policy at many major American universities.
Many universities also rebated millions of dollars in fees to affected borrowers

June 10, 2008, Cuomo announced that three major Internet service providers (Verizon Communications, Time Warner Cable, and Sprint) would "shut down major sources of online child pornography" by no longer hosting many Usenet groups. Time Warner Cable ceased offering Usenet altogether, Sprint ended access to the 18,408 newsgroups in the alt.* hierarchy, and Verizon limited its Usenet offerings to the approximately 3,000 Big 8 newsgroups. The move came after Cuomo's office located 88 different newsgroups to which child pornography had been posted.


Cuomo launched a suit against the United Homeless Organization, a New York charity. He charged that the majority of the group's income was not used to provide services to the homeless but was diverted to the founders for unrelated personal expenses. In 2010, Judge Barbara R. Kapnick granted the judgement and forced the group to disband.

Cuomo signed New York's Marriage Equality Act, introducing same-sex marriage, on June 24, 2011, following an "intense public and private lobbying campaign", and later called for all states to do the same.

Cuomo was praised for his 2011 restructuring of the New York State tax code. He was also criticized for including tax increases for high earners, and for allegedly requesting a unanimous Assembly vote in favor of the proposal and threatening to campaign against Assembly members who voted "no" – a charge he denied. Cuomo also received criticism from voices on the left who felt that the tax reform was insufficient.

January 15, 2013, Cuomo signed into law the first state gun control bill to pass after the December 14, 2012, Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in neighboring Connecticut. The NY SAFE Act was described as the toughest gun control law in the United States.

In 2013, Cuomo called for the passage of a Women's Equality Act.
The Women's Equality Act included 10 component bills affecting issues such as
domestic violence,
human trafficking,
pregnancy discrimination.
The tenth bill of the Women's Equality Act was the Reproductive Health Act, which would have "enshrine[d] in state law existing federal protections for abortion rights...
"[After] the 2014 election season was over, with Cuomo victorious, the governor and his lieutenant governor Kathy Hochul both declared the abortion plank of the act officially dormant, if not dead.”
In 2015, the non-abortion-related Women's Equality Act bills passed both houses of the State Legislature.
In October 2015, Cuomo signed eight of the 10 Women's Equality Act bills into law (no thanks to both Republican and Democratic legislative down-votes, the abortion rights bill was not among them)...


December 17, 2014, the Cuomo administration announced a ban on hydraulic fracturing in New York State.

Cuomo announced an executive order against the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement re Israel.

April 18, 2017, Cuomo signed the New York State 2018 fiscal year budget. that included the Excelsior Scholarship, a provision that families making less than $125,000 in 2019 could have free tuition at all SUNY and CUNY universities,

August 2017, the Cuomo administration awarded more than $7 million, financed with money from large bank settlements, in grants to New York colleges to offer courses to New York prisoners.
In January 2018, Cuomo proposed reforms that would "reduce delays during trials, ban asset seizures in cases where there has been no conviction and make it easier for former convicts to get a job after leaving prison.”
He also called for an end to cash bail for minor crimes.

In 2017

Cuomo is the first governor to get bridges built in the New York metro area in half a century. “No one thought we could get the Tappan Zee Bridge replaced,” says Gerald Benjamin, a longtime Albany watcher at the State University of New York at New Paltz. “He’s been able to do things no one has been able to accomplish in some cases since Robert Moses,” the powerful city planner whose career extended from the 1920s into the 1960s...


Cuomo's predecessors had spent decades and millions of dollars trying to figure out how to rebuild the Tappan Zee Bridge. Cuomo will open a new span later this year. (NewNYBridge)...

Cuomo has somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 billion worth of infrastructure projects underway or approved around the state, including major overhauls of Penn Station in Manhattan and JFK and LaGuardia airports. He has also devoted some $25 billion to various projects and proposals designed to boost the upstate economy.

https://www.governing.com/archive/gov-cuomo-new-york-governor-progressives.html

On January 22, 2019, Cuomo signed the 2019 version of the Reproductive Health Act, which passed days after Democrats took control of the state Senate. Cuomo ordered One World Trade Center and other landmarks to be lit in pink to celebrate the bill's passage. Cuomo's signing and the lighting of the World Trade Center building sparked intense criticism from conservatives. The Catholic cardinal Timothy Dolan criticized Cuomo over the Reproductive Health Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo

December 5, 2019, Cuomo announced the $15 minimum wage phase-in starting December 31


More relatively good and bad context:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/10/19/andrew-cuomo-the-king-of-new-york

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/05/12/cuomo-new-yorks-coronavirus-crackdown-saved-thousands-of-lives/?sh=3b8c060f5f93


We have honored Democrats who do good for their states and the nation, with all their flaws; e.g., FDR, Kennedy and Clinton had sexual lives outside their marriages during their tenures, yet we've honored them as good Democrats. Cuomo has been a Clinton Democrat.

Cuomo got us through the darkest of times when no other Democratic governor could.
Yes, the outcome of AG James’ investigation matters to me; yes, he's been an unlikable, demanding asshole, lonely and stressed.
Yes, no matter how many Dems here or elsewhere chorus his ousting, Democratic Governor Cuomo deserves my support.

Our bus must take America into the 21st Century.
Biden knows that through the power of our unity, which comes through mutual support,
we flawed Democrats have the knowledge, skill and heart to drive that bus.

No ifs, buts, or howevers. Whoever Joe supports, I'll support.

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KnR Hekate Mar 2021 #1
If the accusations are substantiated, it does not matter spooky3 Mar 2021 #2
That's true, but that also FoxNewsSucks Mar 2021 #5
I have consistently said I want to wait for the spooky3 Mar 2021 #21
absolutly Dorian Gray Mar 2021 #110
+ 1 nt pazzyanne Mar 2021 #121
+ a gazillion pandr32 Mar 2021 #60
I suspected TrumpCo is behind this because... Tiger8 Mar 2021 #69
True pandr32 Mar 2021 #85
Yes. Trump leaves and Cuomo's accusers start going public days later? Tiger8 Mar 2021 #101
Tell that to President Biden. No ifs, buts, or howevers. Whoever Biden supports, I'll support. ancianita Mar 2021 #7
Supporting someone's decision to let an investigation play out spooky3 Mar 2021 #19
WOW Me. Mar 2021 #3
After Franken, I am just going to wait and see after the investigation FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #4
After Sandra Lee left him I new something was up. She was crazy about him, and am sure it took a SheilaAnn Mar 2021 #12
There are reports that he Dorian Gray Mar 2021 #111
This is BS to claim they "support" him . They just haven't called for him JI7 Mar 2021 #6
No. Your BS is to claim that you know what support is. ancianita Mar 2021 #9
Yep, it is BS. demmiblue Mar 2021 #14
Here is a link showing exactly what you said is true: spooky3 Mar 2021 #23
Another one: demmiblue Mar 2021 #27
Can you point me to where Biden supported Cuomo after these allegations? tulipsandroses Mar 2021 #8
Sure. ancianita Mar 2021 #17
Did you miss the word "after"? spooky3 Mar 2021 #24
I hear you. I have not read any statement by Biden to the contrary "after." And neither have you. ancianita Mar 2021 #86
You are wrong. There are links posted in this thread, including one I posted, spooky3 Mar 2021 #88
Sure, who wouldn't support an investigation. ancianita Mar 2021 #113
OMG Dorian Gray Mar 2021 #112
Of course he's going to work with him or any elected official tulipsandroses Mar 2021 #47
Here is his official stance: demmiblue Mar 2021 #28
You said it better than I could, Sur Zobra Mar 2021 #63
I'm glad you brought up Ford. Your analysis is spot on. Biden has made NO statement about this. oldsoftie Mar 2021 #115
Support an investigation treestar Mar 2021 #10
Dear Ancianita I am with you. LakeArenal Mar 2021 #11
from Hamlet, Act 2 Scene 2 ancianita Mar 2021 #20
K&R secondwind Mar 2021 #13
Thanks for this, ancianita. Bookmarked. nt Habibi Mar 2021 #15
I remain extremely disturbed but "open-minded." The more certain posters deride those who want to hlthe2b Mar 2021 #16
I agree with you 100 percent. nt. druidity33 Mar 2021 #98
Fellow Dems...let the investigation run its course.... paleotn Mar 2021 #18
I support him... IbogaProject Mar 2021 #22
I hear you. From a link above... ancianita Mar 2021 #26
Some want Dems to get tougher and fight Repukes LakeArenal Mar 2021 #46
I do not support nor do I oppose him. As for the current scandal I think it should be investigated cstanleytech Mar 2021 #25
Fine. ancianita Mar 2021 #29
+1000 absolutely right. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #37
I think an investigation would and should look at everything. cstanleytech Mar 2021 #43
Fine. ancianita Mar 2021 #44
As the number grows the likelihood of it being a smear campaign shrinks cstanleytech Mar 2021 #50
I think that, given the links here, there's been enough transparency about Cuomo ancianita Mar 2021 #59
So, in other words, blame women for the inappropriate actions of men. demmiblue Mar 2021 #45
That's what you read. It's not what I am reading. LakeArenal Mar 2021 #55
Straw man treestar Mar 2021 #67
Pretty much. MrsCoffee Mar 2021 #84
Or, anything from Justice Democrats is suspect, so the Nixie Mar 2021 #119
People who lie about this type of thing Meowmee Mar 2021 #107
"Now on accusations alone. I will never support that." I agree but I also believe an investigation cstanleytech Mar 2021 #114
Democrats must not let the purity police and their firing squad destroy Democrats at will. dalton99a Mar 2021 #30
Cuomo deserves his day in court as did SENATOR FRANKIN..... just like anyone else. Trueblue1968 Mar 2021 #109
He has done a lot of good. Politicub Mar 2021 #31
Thank you. Outstanding. PufPuf23 Mar 2021 #32
Very well done, and an impressive list of accomplishments. I support him too until it's proven.... George II Mar 2021 #33
it is a matter of due process azureblue Mar 2021 #34
Are you suggesting that only if convicted of a crime should someone resign office? MichMan Mar 2021 #89
count me in too...we need an investigation...the first women to complain is now creating a public Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #35
+1 PACs, you say? Pretty suspect, this winning through grievance before the public. ancianita Mar 2021 #42
yep...very suspicious. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #51
Could you please link that info? Because that is no minor point that you make. ancianita Mar 2021 #62
Here you go. Fox Business News. summer_in_TX Mar 2021 #104
Thank you. ancianita Mar 2021 #108
You're welcome! summer_in_TX Mar 2021 #131
Count me in. Kid Berwyn Mar 2021 #36
Dishonest title FBaggins Mar 2021 #38
Duly noted. ancianita Mar 2021 #49
Why would I need links on why they don't support him? FBaggins Mar 2021 #56
Fine. So you're all about diminishing my case. ancianita Mar 2021 #61
Not diminishing your case... pointing out that you didn't make one FBaggins Mar 2021 #66
I made my case. Reread. You got nothing but your opinion. ancianita Mar 2021 #71
You made YOUR case. You sold it (in all caps) as THEIR case. FBaggins Mar 2021 #72
I still sell it as the case Democrats who support Cuomo can make. "Dishonest" is just your opinion, ancianita Mar 2021 #74
Your reply #7 to post #2 tells the whole tale FBaggins Mar 2021 #77
Oh moderator, when charges are substantiated, I made the case for all things weighed about ancianita Mar 2021 #78
They try hard to equate "supporting Cuomo" with treestar Mar 2021 #68
A person who hasn't called for Cuomo to step down isn't automatically a "supporter" brooklynite Mar 2021 #39
Funny thing, when it comes down to it... ahoysrcsm Mar 2021 #125
My position is easy to summarize. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #40
Have no idea about this.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2021 #41
A New York friend of mine called this over a year ago Random Boomer Mar 2021 #48
I hear you. ancianita Mar 2021 #53
Groupthink is Powerful.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2021 #58
And, I'm sorry to say, many, many men in this country are guilty of many of the same things, judesedit Mar 2021 #52
Well, ever since I humiliated myself by supporting Anthony Weiner... dawg day Mar 2021 #54
I got burned by that too MustLoveBeagles Mar 2021 #80
AND the idiot managed (with Comey's help) to derail Clinton's campaign dawg day Mar 2021 #92
I'd imagine the list gets smaller everyday Polybius Mar 2021 #57
Kicking this. calimary Mar 2021 #64
This is what happened with All of Nothing Politics.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2021 #65
+1. NEXT: Puritan Democrats Take Over Party, Demand JFK and LBJ Portraits to be Removed dalton99a Mar 2021 #70
It's Not Too Far.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2021 #75
While they're at it, FDR and Clinton. ancianita Mar 2021 #76
Yep this Meowmee Mar 2021 #106
Good one! calimary Mar 2021 #132
The investigation should proceed. We Dems need to stop "franken'ing people". nt iluvtennis Mar 2021 #73
I support an investigation MustLoveBeagles Mar 2021 #79
+1 crickets Mar 2021 #97
I'm really not in support mode. I'm in neutral mode. peggysue2 Mar 2021 #81
I hear you. ancianita Mar 2021 #83
I support a Democratic governor who will NOT pardon the orange bloat for NY crimes Wild blueberry Mar 2021 #82
Are you under the impression that some Democratic governors would? brooklynite Mar 2021 #93
No. Wild blueberry Mar 2021 #100
So you believe that the Republicans managed to bribe 7 women? brooklynite Mar 2021 #103
Do you support an investigation into the allegations? ahoysrcsm Mar 2021 #126
My modest proposal is how about the MSM ONLY spend the same amount of time on this JCMach1 Mar 2021 #87
And a good one it is. ancianita Mar 2021 #90
President Biden puts the lie to the claim that Gov Cuomo has had no friends. ancianita Mar 2021 #91
Biden: "I think the investigation is underway and we should see what it brings us." oldsoftie Mar 2021 #116
I'm still with Biden, regardless. ancianita Mar 2021 #118
So how long is that free pass good for? oldsoftie Mar 2021 #123
I support due process Warpy Mar 2021 #94
We should always respect it and the media should report then chill JCMach1 Mar 2021 #105
Until it doesn't work any more Warpy Mar 2021 #127
The funny thing about this post. Ms. Bennet did as you said. She reported his harassment. tulipsandroses Mar 2021 #128
If you violate process, that should come out too... let the law play out... JCMach1 Mar 2021 #129
The party needs to support due process Warpy Mar 2021 #130
Thanks for this. I think you misplaced Yang tho. He is neither a Dem, nor does he support Cuomo robbedvoter Mar 2021 #95
Okay. Thanks. ancianita Mar 2021 #102
Adding: 64% of women in NY per the last poll robbedvoter Mar 2021 #96
K&R nt lillypaddle Mar 2021 #99
I am going to say LittleGirl Mar 2021 #117
Well, ancianita Mar 2021 #120
Well LittleGirl Mar 2021 #122
That's ancianita Mar 2021 #124
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