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sarisataka

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31. For the sake of being thorough

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:25 PM

Jul 2022

As I indicated above, there are many charges that could be considered for opening fire in a mall.

While he can say it was self-defense and defense of others, that is not a get out of jail free card. People acting in self-defense may often face charges. I posted a week or so ago about an NYC shop owner who is being charged with murder for stabbing a man to death. It was all caught on video and clearly showed the deceased was the aggressor, yet that did not prevent the DA from charging second degree murder.

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What should happen to the shooter? [View all] sarisataka Jul 2022 OP

At least banned from the mall Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #1

He could have killed a bystander ... Novara Jul 2022 #4

Exactly Mad_Machine76 Jul 2022 #5

He could have, but he didn't, so he can't be prosecuted Ocelot II Jul 2022 #9

"If nobody had a gun nobody would be dead." Novara Jul 2022 #16

Legally, nothing DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #2

This. -NT- ruet Jul 2022 #32

He violated the property owner's policy, but did he violate a law or ordinance? Ocelot II Jul 2022 #3

He did not violate a law sarisataka Jul 2022 #7

Most states allow someone charged with homicide Ocelot II Jul 2022 #10

Yes, at this point sarisataka Jul 2022 #14

If a prosecutor thinks a potential defendant has a very strong defense Ocelot II Jul 2022 #15

I agree the likelihood of charges sarisataka Jul 2022 #20

Isn't it the law that establishments have the right to set policy? Kaleva Jul 2022 #13

It depends on the specific state sarisataka Jul 2022 #17

Thanks. Im not familiar with Indiana law. Kaleva Jul 2022 #25

They can set policy for what goes on in their premises, Ocelot II Jul 2022 #18

They can, but their policies are pretty meaningless DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #19

That's a dumb thing to do, though. Jirel Jul 2022 #34

Wish I could rec this post n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #42

Nobody ever follows up on these good guys guns who kill people Walleye Jul 2022 #6

Fox News does. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #12

If Simon Properties pinkstarburst Jul 2022 #8

Criminally nothing. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2022 #11

What do you do to the husband who robs bank to pay for wife's life saving surgery aeromanKC Jul 2022 #21

I will say this, Chainfire Jul 2022 #23

Agree aeromanKC Jul 2022 #28

Actions have consequences sarisataka Jul 2022 #24

Apparently there is no Indiana law that says you must obey the sign Kaleva Jul 2022 #26

I simply can not bring myself to suggest any sanctions against a person Chainfire Jul 2022 #22

I have seen quite a few posts upset sarisataka Jul 2022 #27

And, I understand that. Chainfire Jul 2022 #29

I believe it would only be misdemeanor trespass if he was asked to leave and refused Amishman Jul 2022 #33

Why did you include felony and misdemeanor? brooklynite Jul 2022 #30

For the sake of being thorough sarisataka Jul 2022 #31

The NY prosecutor is an idiot SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #36

Charges dropped brooklynite Jul 2022 #51

Just read that earlier today SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #52

2 people actually picked that choice Polybius Jul 2022 #46

And as of the time I'm posting this sarisataka Jul 2022 #35

Nothing. DFW Jul 2022 #37

Completely impossible Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #38

It appears the hero broke the mall rules, No Firearms or Illegal Weapons Emile Jul 2022 #39

That appears to be correct sarisataka Jul 2022 #40

There are no heroes in this situation. The Grand Illuminist Jul 2022 #41

Yup Polybius Jul 2022 #47

I long for the day where we don't need heroes with guns. Emile Jul 2022 #53

My thanks to all who answered this poll sarisataka Jul 2022 #43

Banned from the mall mvd Jul 2022 #44

Let's review 2 incidents where "hero" shooters violated laws/policies. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #45

Reminds me of an episode of Masters of the Universe around 1983 Polybius Jul 2022 #48

This, at OSHA, is what is referred to as a "de minimis violation." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #49

Analogy: some kids decide to ditch high shool. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2022 #50