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Bettie

(17,473 posts) Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:37 AM Nov 7

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I've learned an important lesson from this election [View all]

I went through most of my life honestly believing that most people are generally decent.

I now know for certain that is not the case.

It is a hard thing to finally understand.

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I've learned an important lesson from this election [View all] Bettie Nov 7 OP

Most humans are garbage XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #1

They are catholic and vote conservative Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #15

I'm catholic XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #23

There is a rift in the church Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #39

Yeah I don't know any rw catholics XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #40

The parrish my sister belongs to Lifeafter70 Nov 7 #153

It's not simply about being Catholic... King_Klonopin Nov 8 #157

You described my dad until he retired Lifeafter70 Nov 8 #158

I don't consider people like Alito Catholic. LisaM Nov 7 #63

Hug XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #66

I call them churchers no matter what denomination Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #70

My sister is over sixty and converted to Catholicism about ten years ago. Hope22 Nov 7 #98

I'm sorry XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #100

Confession: I'm already toying with the idea of flying the flag upside down, starting now. calimary Nov 7 #144

My biggest problem with my situation was... Hope22 Nov 7 #151

I will never understand. Catholic teaching of Jesus is largely liberal Norbert Nov 8 #163

Yes to all of this. Hope22 Nov 8 #164

I attended Catholic high school and college but Clearheadsam Nov 7 #126

The people in that church will be crying a river Hope22 Nov 8 #166

the two concepts don't gel in my head. I know too much about being a Catholic msfiddlestix Nov 7 #137

Ok XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #138

Okay atreides1 Nov 7 #47

God works through unlikely vessels 🤮 Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #61

Joe Biden is Catholic SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #68

Yep and liberal Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #73

So? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #75

Who do you think the Heritage Foundation is? Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #76

The Heritage Foundation is SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #101

To me the heratige foundation I_UndergroundPanther Nov 7 #148

I don't disagree SocialDemocrat61 Nov 8 #160

It is Bettie Nov 8 #162

Didn't say that. Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #81

Then what is your point SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #106

TY XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #109

Because the catholic church has been Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #110

Oh so it's a secret conspiracy SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #112

Not to secret Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #113

So are all Catholics part of this conspiracy? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #114

Actually, various fundamental xian sects have made BIG strides among Hispanic populations for a couple decades now. Attilatheblond Nov 7 #92

Didn't say it was only them Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #99

I didn't infer you said it was only them Attilatheblond Nov 7 #131

Yep. The radtrad Catholic groups have "Google-bombed" the internet... keep_left Nov 7 #127

Garbage kairos12 Nov 7 #20

A time-honoured saying from British politics: anamnua Nov 7 #21

I like that. Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #62

those papers will NOT protect them lapfog_1 Nov 7 #30

It will be interesting to see his supposed deportations XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #34

to do it the right way is NJCher Nov 7 #43

Unless they speak perfect, unaccented English Demobrat Nov 7 #130

Didn't work for Hitler ended up being concentration camps. Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #44

I suspect they will be sold into slavery. They have a huge pool of people to sell. Clouds Passing Nov 7 #52

Their lives will be a misery. BonnieJW Nov 7 #55

Camps? 90-percent Nov 7 #108

That is why I_UndergroundPanther Nov 7 #149

What about the White men who consistently vote Republican? Yavin4 Nov 7 #33

And many white women XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #35

A majority of white women Sable302b Nov 7 #84

But, please, use caution. BadgerMom Nov 7 #85

Please, I don't want to argue XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #86

White men are NOT the largest voting block in America. White women are. Latino's are going kelly1mm Nov 8 #155

Right there with you. onecaliberal Nov 7 #54

Don't let some of the headliners fool you Jk23 Nov 7 #89

Good luck to them XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #90

"I wonder, the Latinos who voted for him..." hadEnuf Nov 7 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author hadEnuf Nov 7 #124

just saw this: blueknight73 Nov 7 #125

I think Latinos, especially multi generation Latinos are having the same conversion as other ethnic groups kelly1mm Nov 7 #152

I went through most of my life honestly believing that Mr.Bee Nov 8 #154

& then my question Lemon Lyman Nov 7 #2

Right? I don't know Bettie Nov 7 #4

I think people were always this bad. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #10

It's said to be a machismo issue with many Latino males. The man rules the house and is the authority figure. brush Nov 7 #7

Yeah, Mexico's gotten A LOT better in the past few decades. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #9

Misogyny or racism, IDK if you can state which one right-wing white men harbor the most. CrispyQ Nov 7 #13

Years of brainwashing Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #17

I listened to an excellent Ursus Arctos Nov 7 #38

I think it was inside them. BonnieJW Nov 7 #57

Yeah, I truly believed that good people outnumbered the creeps. Quiet Em Nov 7 #3

An awful lot of people are just mean and dumb. Ocelot II Nov 7 #5

An economy for all & a solid educational system would cure a ton of our problems!! CrispyQ Nov 7 #16

Completely agree with you here jmbar2 Nov 7 #27

People have no idea how rich the rich really are. CrispyQ Nov 7 #50

The pie exercise is really good way to present the information jmbar2 Nov 7 #60

Adding some figures would be good, too, so people would know which plate they're on. CrispyQ Nov 7 #67

Nick Hanauer does a good TedTalk on this... jmbar2 Nov 7 #69

It is an eye opening visual. I wish they'd do another example of how it was 50 or 100 years ago. ffr Nov 7 #140

That would be good jmbar2 Nov 7 #141

The Pie. Luv this, saw it a few years ago. Very effective, terrific demo. Tx for posting appalachiablue Nov 7 #111

We used to have that with FDR's New Deal FakeNoose Nov 7 #94

Yes! Almost everyone in the US today has benefited in some way from the New Deal. CrispyQ Nov 7 #105

To be honest atreides1 Nov 7 #29

Yep, racism and misogyny 'r us. It's a harsh discription but it's evident now. brush Nov 7 #6

We cultivate the type of society we want. CrispyQ Nov 7 #8

It's been a rude awakening, for sure. City Lights Nov 7 #11

But they are all over social media Bettie Nov 7 #12

Couldn't agree more! nt City Lights Nov 7 #18

It's like finding out that a family member has a secret second family progressoid Nov 7 #14

For me, it feels like finding out a family member Bettie Nov 7 #19

people in the USA voteragain Nov 7 #22

It's sad so much hate and bigotry exists in our country kimbutgar Nov 7 #24

Persons are decent--as a group, people are not always Maeve Nov 7 #25

Ya... I was really hit with that 2016, so I do get what you are saying. LizBeth Nov 7 #26

I agree. It is a seismic shock. anamnua Nov 7 #28

yeah...i have a few ppl who are no longer friends cuz of that premise FirstLight Nov 7 #31

One thing I learned on the front lines of Covid Docreed2003 Nov 7 #32

My mom had a similar saying Lifeafter70 Nov 8 #165

People no longer want decency. They want money, or they want to watch other people lose and suffer. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #36

You know, i know people who watch Bettie Nov 7 #42

There's so little that's uplifting anymore, you have to really seek it out--I don't watch that trash either. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #46

So in other words, the fruit of the Reagan tree misanthrope Nov 7 #115

Reagan made greed and ignorance fashionable Skittles Nov 8 #159

The lesson I've learned is that too many generally decent people are also dumb as dirt. Pacifist Patriot Nov 7 #37

The internet broke our culture Johnny2X2X Nov 7 #41

Spot on and a book to read jayschool2013 Nov 7 #91

It needed to be heavily regulated from the start Johnny2X2X Nov 7 #103

Well, we have got to figure something out. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #121

Will take something big happening Johnny2X2X Nov 7 #122

The media was better off before 1990. Dawson Leery Nov 7 #97

Reality can be very unpleasant sometimes Trust_Reality Nov 7 #45

Perhaps a better guideline is "There's a sucker born every minute." Martin68 Nov 7 #48

I have become a misanthrope BigmanPigman Nov 7 #49

True. There are several politicians who have greatly disappointed me too * Oopsie Daisy Nov 7 #51

Look at our history stollen Nov 7 #53

Went to my SILs funeral a couple of months ago ismnotwasm Nov 7 #56

Good illustration of why we shouldn't be too hard on the other side jmbar2 Nov 7 #65

They are NOT reachable ismnotwasm Nov 7 #82

JFK Jr has been dead for 25 years. misanthrope Nov 7 #116

The cost of. . . Stargleamer Nov 8 #156

I learned the truth of the saying Colgate 64 Nov 7 #58

Exactly my feelings!!!! nt LAS14 Nov 7 #59

You are not alone. ananda Nov 7 #64

Welcome to Club 2016. Iggo Nov 7 #71

Pretty sad realization Old Crank Nov 7 #72

Evidence would support that position** misanthrope Nov 7 #117

Thank you for expressing exactly how I've felt since waking up yesterday morning geo1 Nov 7 #74

I am not proud of this country BluenFLA Nov 7 #77

Agreed - it's going to be an awful 4 years and we have few allies left FakeNoose Nov 7 #78

Assuming it is only four years is optimistic misanthrope Nov 7 #118

Religion should have no place in American politics. Instead it is a basic requirement to get elected walkingman Nov 7 #79

I love this country and the idea of what it could be. mymomwasright Nov 7 #80

Fear and ignorance rules the day. BarbD Nov 7 #83

Very. It is a harsh lesson. Learning it almost destroyed me, to be honest. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 7 #87

There were millions of Americans is the mid-19th century that seemed paulrevere2018 Nov 7 #88

Corruption gone wild. moondust Nov 7 #93

I never regretted not serving in the military. Dawson Leery Nov 7 #95

America is certainly embracing hate at the moment 4catsmom Nov 7 #96

Can't be that many votes LESS than 2020 for the Democratic candidate Eliot Rosewater Nov 7 #102

The 2020 candidate was a man. Demobrat Nov 7 #132

Human nature Semperviren Nov 7 #104

FIFY misanthrope Nov 7 #119

I believed that until the 2016 election. raccoon Nov 7 #107

In 2016, I mistakenly put it down to Bettie Nov 7 #120

Only 29% of US adults voted for Trump. MisterG Nov 7 #128

Better late than never. Demobrat Nov 7 #129

There are more assholes in the world brettdale Nov 7 #133

I've always preferred my pets DemonGoddess Nov 7 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 7 #135

Yup. People need a re-boot. Joinfortmill Nov 7 #136

What I have come to understand about the republican base is that it all runs on doublethink. paulkienitz Nov 7 #139

Totally Agree Starlight27 Nov 7 #142

"It is a hard thing to finally understand." B.See Nov 7 #143

Throughout my long adult life I've met thousands of people moniss Nov 7 #145

Important lesson mamacita75 Nov 7 #146

What i see in what has happened reinforces my foundational understanding of humanity and life... Trueblue Texan Nov 7 #147

I think I_UndergroundPanther Nov 7 #150

Like 2016, if pettiness was radiation... Montauk6 Nov 8 #161