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kwolf68

(7,876 posts)
44. THIS is only part of it
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:47 PM
Nov 7

The national media, major media outlets are owned by the exact people and companies those media outlets should be watching over. A strong part of the Democratic Party message is we need a media free from the corruptive influence of oligarchs. Ditto for that influence in the political system. Which is the difficult part as many Dems also benefit from that same model, but it's corrupt to the core and inspires the idea both parties are "the same". We need to break that mold somehow, show how we are different and why it's better.

Short of that, yes getting the information out there is important, but the bottom line is TRUMP SELLS. He's a horrific pile of shit, but that's all anyone talks about and the reason he won is he understood his "celebrity". In the world of entertainment there is NO such thing as bad publicity. Rock stars who drink milk and lay in a hammock don't get run, but if they smash up cars or hotel rooms, make some insane comment or go streaking down Broadway they are IN THE spotlight, that's all you need to do. Again, the only thing worse than bad publicity is no publicity.

Trump understood that, just keep his name out there. Do whatever you can, say anything, the wilder the better, because if this comment offends 12 million people not to worry he'll just make another crazy comment tomorrow and the comment from yesterday goes poof. The end result? Everyone is still talking about Trump. Again, no such thing as bad publicity. Our election has now become a contest of "who will you remember" when you go into the booth. For the badly informed or lazy voter, they will mark in the box for the guy that has been pushed into their brain on a constant basis.

To see all the ballot initiates and even "policy" polling that both show a VERY STRONG favor toward the policies of the Democratic Party, WHY then do we lose? American people time and time again say they support our policies and most often by wide margins, THEN elect someone who would resist or reject those policies. In short, the Presidential election is not really about policy at all.

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this. It's the propaganda, stupid. unblock Nov 7 #1
+1 GoodRaisin Nov 7 #45
I wish I knew. unblock Nov 7 #47
BINGO!!! The DNC needs its version of FAUX NewZ PERIOD !! FAUX NewZ is candy for LIVs, the amount of disinformation... uponit7771 Nov 7 #2
I think social media and podcasts are actually more influential than Fox News. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #27
I heard the other day TheFarseer Nov 8 #55
This AZSkiffyGeek Nov 8 #57
Get to work Democrats. oasis Nov 7 #3
It's always been an information war. Phoenix61 Nov 7 #4
I saw this coming back in the early Rush days. OnionPatch Nov 7 #10
Me too. lynnyl Nov 7 #24
Why oh why can't our side have radio! OnionPatch Nov 8 #50
Agree. We cannot rely on any existing media to refute the lies and accurately report the news. Lonestarblue Nov 7 #5
I wonder what Marc Cuban is doing? flamingdem Nov 7 #6
Unless you get Randi Rhodes on board with information sharing and spreading the effort won't be worth a fuck SoFlaBro Nov 7 #48
They drilled a well that came up dry bucolic_frolic Nov 7 #7
Well TSF did. johnnyfins Nov 7 #31
? Lemon Lyman Nov 7 #8
We don't need to be like them OnionPatch Nov 7 #11
- Lemon Lyman Nov 7 #12
How in the world do we counter Rogan flamingdem Nov 7 #21
There's got to be a way to make liberalism interesting. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #29
TV is for the 80s and 90s BannonsLiver Nov 7 #33
We have to remember the young men who are red hats have grown up seeing trump FloridaBlues Nov 7 #37
You know what the fuck seems to do well, podcasts that critique and goof on these fucking RW shit fountains. SoFlaBro Nov 7 #49
If the economy under shithole tanks.................. Lovie777 Nov 7 #9
If we're ever allowed to have free & fair elections Island Blue Nov 7 #17
This Ars Longa Nov 7 #22
Not if they Gop Ussr are successful at saying it was the dems fault oldmanlynn Nov 7 #30
Yes yes yes Sunsky Nov 7 #13
I think I disagree with this somewhat EarlG Nov 7 #14
So true that dems will win again after repubs destroy everything! flamingdem Nov 7 #20
That starts with stop relying on legacy media. Yavin4 Nov 7 #15
I said it in another post but Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #32
we had air america, and no dems took out ads. not john kerry, not any of them. mopinko Nov 7 #16
Raise your hand if you subscribe to Daily Kos Bobstandard Nov 7 #18
Wonkette too! Easterncedar Nov 7 #26
It's not possible at this point. GaYellowDawg Nov 7 #19
Fox is a relic BannonsLiver Nov 7 #36
1000% SomedayKindaLove Nov 8 #60
There aren't going to be elections. Our country is finished. NNadir Nov 7 #23
I think there will still be elections -- Russian style, where it just doesn't matter William Seger Nov 7 #25
It's Not Just Fox Noise Deep State Witch Nov 7 #28
Right and they are " monetized". I have tried to explain this to my very gullible friend time and time again. tulipsandroses Nov 7 #34
Nonsense. You can't change these people. Stop trashing the Democratic Party over valleyrogue Nov 7 #35
Won't be easy Jmoncada Nov 8 #59
That's clear to me as well. BannonsLiver Nov 7 #38
"Information ecosystem" is horrible babble. Wanting it to be "well-oiled" is crappy mixing of metaphors. muriel_volestrangler Nov 7 #39
We need to build the ecosystem, and then we need to *support it*. keep_left Nov 7 #40
People keep saying we need our own Fox News ibegurpard Nov 7 #41
I was thinking along these lines myself. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 7 #42
You are leaving out every Sunday morning in America! IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 7 #43
THIS is only part of it kwolf68 Nov 7 #44
The main problem isn't Fox. orange jar Nov 7 #46
Where is our liberal podcasters that reach young women? Demovictory9 Nov 8 #53
This! happy feet Nov 8 #51
Kitchen table issues oldreliable_one Nov 8 #52
You eject an incumbent power with anger bucolic_frolic Nov 8 #54
We lost the propaganda wars. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #56
I think a lot of Republican voters are clueless TheFarseer Nov 8 #58
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