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In reply to the discussion: Democrats aren't going to win elections again until they build a well-oiled information ecosystem [View all]kwolf68
(7,876 posts)44. THIS is only part of it
The national media, major media outlets are owned by the exact people and companies those media outlets should be watching over. A strong part of the Democratic Party message is we need a media free from the corruptive influence of oligarchs. Ditto for that influence in the political system. Which is the difficult part as many Dems also benefit from that same model, but it's corrupt to the core and inspires the idea both parties are "the same". We need to break that mold somehow, show how we are different and why it's better.
Short of that, yes getting the information out there is important, but the bottom line is TRUMP SELLS. He's a horrific pile of shit, but that's all anyone talks about and the reason he won is he understood his "celebrity". In the world of entertainment there is NO such thing as bad publicity. Rock stars who drink milk and lay in a hammock don't get run, but if they smash up cars or hotel rooms, make some insane comment or go streaking down Broadway they are IN THE spotlight, that's all you need to do. Again, the only thing worse than bad publicity is no publicity.
Trump understood that, just keep his name out there. Do whatever you can, say anything, the wilder the better, because if this comment offends 12 million people not to worry he'll just make another crazy comment tomorrow and the comment from yesterday goes poof. The end result? Everyone is still talking about Trump. Again, no such thing as bad publicity. Our election has now become a contest of "who will you remember" when you go into the booth. For the badly informed or lazy voter, they will mark in the box for the guy that has been pushed into their brain on a constant basis.
To see all the ballot initiates and even "policy" polling that both show a VERY STRONG favor toward the policies of the Democratic Party, WHY then do we lose? American people time and time again say they support our policies and most often by wide margins, THEN elect someone who would resist or reject those policies. In short, the Presidential election is not really about policy at all.
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Democrats aren't going to win elections again until they build a well-oiled information ecosystem [View all]
flamingdem
Nov 7
OP
BINGO!!! The DNC needs its version of FAUX NewZ PERIOD !! FAUX NewZ is candy for LIVs, the amount of disinformation...
uponit7771
Nov 7
#2
I think social media and podcasts are actually more influential than Fox News.
Elessar Zappa
Nov 7
#27
Agree. We cannot rely on any existing media to refute the lies and accurately report the news.
Lonestarblue
Nov 7
#5
Unless you get Randi Rhodes on board with information sharing and spreading the effort won't be worth a fuck
SoFlaBro
Nov 7
#48
We have to remember the young men who are red hats have grown up seeing trump
FloridaBlues
Nov 7
#37
You know what the fuck seems to do well, podcasts that critique and goof on these fucking RW shit fountains.
SoFlaBro
Nov 7
#49
I think there will still be elections -- Russian style, where it just doesn't matter
William Seger
Nov 7
#25
Right and they are " monetized". I have tried to explain this to my very gullible friend time and time again.
tulipsandroses
Nov 7
#34
Nonsense. You can't change these people. Stop trashing the Democratic Party over
valleyrogue
Nov 7
#35
"Information ecosystem" is horrible babble. Wanting it to be "well-oiled" is crappy mixing of metaphors.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 7
#39