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13. Does the consession prevent a recount?

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Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:06 AM

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Rigged? Computer Security Experts Urge Harris To Demand Hand Recount [View all] ScubaSteve Nov 16 OP

I'm totally in on the Hand Jive Recount thingy. Count them up. BoRaGard Nov 16 #1

He will be on the Thomm Hartman program Monday Ferryboat Nov 16 #62

I saw this posted on Bluesky, but can't confirm. Do you have anything? Native Nov 16 #128

On Friday markodochartaigh Nov 17 #247

Thanks! Native Nov 17 #248

I've been saying from Nov. 6 that no way trump won every swing state.... brush Nov 16 #191

Didn't she say... XarmyGal Nov 16 #166

I don't recall her ever pledging to chase around conspiracy theories to placate election deniers? tritsofme Nov 16 #171

Worried? OhioBack2Blue Nov 16 #187

lol tritsofme Nov 16 #190

well why not? azureblue Nov 16 #216

Spoonamore's onto something. sop Nov 16 #2

What About These Subject Matter Experts to Endorse a Hand Recount? MrWowWow Nov 16 #64

Especially if Starlink was involved. colorado_ufo Nov 16 #215

It should be done. Liberal In Texas Nov 16 #3

EXACTLY! Lunabell Nov 16 #4

Greg Palast thinks that almost 3 million provisional ballots were dumped. TheRickles Nov 16 #5

Since Trump won by 2,705,700 more popular votes, a provisional ballot challenge might work. ancianita Nov 16 #37

Still counting OhioBack2Blue Nov 16 #189

I'm aware. We have until Dec 11. Thing is, when will count challenges be filed in courts? ancianita Nov 16 #201

Duh! malaise Nov 16 #6

NC dweller Nov 16 #7

Yeah, that is kind of suspicious. Think. Again. Nov 16 #32

How many votes did Biden get there? Surely it wasn't 356,844 - 0. TheRickles Nov 16 #48

It's an elementary school level of cheating. Evidence it and jail everyone who touched the illegitimate ballots. jaxexpat Nov 16 #68

If proven, might be ironically uncomfortable for VP Harris to certify trump lostnfound Nov 16 #77

If there is proof of enough ballot fraud the electors "faithfulness" will be a point of great focus. jaxexpat Nov 16 #96

He will be osteopath6 Nov 16 #109

All that cry baby has done his entire life is lie & cheat at everything. KS Toronado Nov 16 #142

BS Doodley Nov 16 #155

I respectfully disagree. RandomNumbers Nov 16 #158

Innocent question... waltzy Nov 16 #219

Why do you ask? Welcome to DU GP6971 Nov 16 #220

Answers RandomNumbers Nov 17 #246

No one gets to pin the legitimization of "election denial" on the Democrats when... Karasu Nov 16 #164

Counterpoint ... krkaufman Nov 16 #210

WHAT !!! HUAJIAO Nov 16 #79

See my post dweller Nov 16 #88

Yes. This is really suspicious here in NC ms liberty Nov 16 #144

Compared to other state-wide races, Trump got the 4th most votes for a Republican muriel_volestrangler Nov 16 #211

Quite possible HarryM Nov 17 #225

But she conceded Patton French Nov 16 #8

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Yes, and it's up to The People to find the evidence of fraud. ancianita Nov 16 #39

Elections are not decided because a candidate concedes or whopis01 Nov 16 #44

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Concessions are not binding if there is fraud. OMGWTF Nov 16 #129

It doesn't matter as she would've conceeded on the basis that she had in fact lost and that the votes were legitimate Galraedia Nov 16 #198

That really is suspicious, but since she conceded so quickly I'm sure we're screwed. Vinca Nov 16 #9

Does the consession prevent a recount? MadameButterfly Nov 16 #13

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+1 ancianita Nov 16 #40

I would hope not, but I'm not optimistic. It's all moved into "kumbaya" mode from what I can gather. Vinca Nov 16 #107

No concession don't prevent a recount standingtall Nov 16 #147

Haven't there bern past elections.. Think. Again. Nov 16 #34

Gore rescinded his against Bush Blue_Roses Nov 17 #237

I thought so... Think. Again. Nov 17 #240

I'm sure all of this Blue_Roses Nov 17 #241

I can't access the article at Daily Kos Kaleva Nov 16 #10

I can't either. I went directly to DK and could find nothing. Maggiemayhem Nov 16 #17

I couldn't access it either MadameButterfly Nov 16 #19

This is odd dss Nov 16 #127

Yeah, getting a giant Access Denied (403) warning Babajida Nov 16 #160

No one can - DK took it down. soldierant Nov 16 #170

Brad blog interviewed the guy today on his radio show questionseverything Nov 16 #182

Is this the story you are looking for? Typewitch Nov 17 #224

Thanks! Apparently Daily Kos zapped the article Kaleva Nov 17 #239

I Concur On The Recount. GB_RN Nov 16 #11

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Post removed Post removed Nov 16 #49

I can't tell you Mr. Evil Nov 16 #86

Really? Tweedy Nov 16 #145

They sent the votes to Tennessee in 2004 Beck23 Nov 16 #63

Yep, SmarTech, who was working for the Bush campaign... CaptainTruth Nov 16 #73

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Concession is NOT legally binding...Reread what happened during the Bush v Gore. Al Gore conceded & then The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 16 #45

We are going to get this right osteopath6 Nov 16 #115

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That is the serious concern here Babajida Nov 16 #163

Is there something we can do to make this happen MadameButterfly Nov 16 #14

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I need to get access to this article before I do anything so I know what I'm talking about MadameButterfly Nov 16 #20

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It says the info came from X Loupe Garoue Nov 16 #47

Brad blog has a great article about all these concerns and interviews one election specialist questionseverything Nov 16 #183

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Elias is saying there was no fraud johnnyfins Nov 16 #81

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I believe our best bet is to be as loud as possible... Think. Again. Nov 16 #36

Why would contacting those people make them believe in baseless conspiracy theories like this? tritsofme Nov 16 #159

Access denied wildflowergardener Nov 16 #18

I don't want to sound too conspiratorial here MadameButterfly Nov 16 #26

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How can I get access to that MadameButterfly Nov 16 #35

Here is the OP about the "letter"... Think. Again. Nov 16 #38

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Might be taken down for a good reason creeksneakers2 Nov 16 #151

I wish they would do recounts. 2naSalit Nov 16 #25

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NC has paper ballots Abnredleg Nov 16 #41

Try this Link MrWowWow Nov 16 #42

I found the Duty to Warn letter on Substack, and I copied it in full in a subsequent post here Native Nov 16 #50

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Is Marc Alias looking into this? Blue Owl Nov 16 #43

Here it is on Substack: Native Nov 16 #46

Thank you! Think. Again. Nov 16 #54

I also completely forgot that Musk's "lottery" was only available to swing state, registered voters. Native Nov 16 #98

Yes, hopefully attorneys are looking into all that too. Think. Again. Nov 16 #113

excellent point NJCher Nov 16 #140

I updatedmy post. I inadvertently included the wrong link. Native Nov 16 #120

Thanks again! Think. Again. Nov 16 #124

Buell was a guest on brad cast and the brad blog has an excellent article today about his concerns questionseverything Nov 16 #181

May I ask you for a link? Or more info on the "Brad Cast" so I can find a link? Think. Again. Nov 16 #184

Google bradblog , I can't post a link on my phone but questionseverything Nov 16 #186

Thanks! I'll search now... Think. Again. Nov 16 #188

Here it is! Thanks! Think. Again. Nov 16 #192

No, thank you for everything you are doing, trying to raise awareness questionseverything Nov 16 #194

Yes, WE are ultimately responsible for our Democracy (no matter what our elected officials say about that). Think. Again. Nov 16 #196

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ---- ConcernedCitizen1776 Nov 19 #252

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What form should these protests take? MadameButterfly Nov 16 #71

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Thanks you!!!! MadameButterfly Nov 16 #67

I updated my post. I inadvertently included the wrong link to the duty to warn letter. Native Nov 16 #121

These Election Security Experts Need to Endorse the Hand Recount MrWowWow Nov 16 #70

Thank you Helicoptercatmom Nov 16 #97

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I accidentally pasted the wrong link. Here's the correct one Native Nov 16 #123

Thank you, Native... oldsoldierfadingfast Nov 16 #209

It was also saved on archive.is (not by me) soldierant Nov 17 #245

Also can't access, but here is some other info masmdu Nov 16 #53

Also, very strange that this is not available on masmdu Nov 16 #55

How can there be 350,000 "bullet ballots" in North Carolina? Only 88,511 fewer votes for Gov. than Pres. onenote Nov 16 #56

That is my thought as well. n/t John1956PA Nov 16 #94

I keep looking at NCSBE dweller Nov 16 #104

Canvassing in NC ends Friday, November 15th Abnredleg Nov 16 #133

Bold of you to ask for evidence Sympthsical Nov 16 #117

So how many of us have called the White House? Marc Elias? The governor of NC? The governors of the swing states? BComplex Nov 16 #57

I agree Beck23 Nov 16 #59

Wow. Can you find any documentation of that online? Native Nov 16 #100

Stephen Spoonamore is a grifter. DiamondShark Nov 17 #227

Interesting. Native Nov 17 #231

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When you spend as much time as I have... DiamondShark Nov 17 #233

Mango Mussolini filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results of the 2020 election. Why doesn't Kamala do the same??? LaMouffette Nov 16 #66

Because Harris isn't a grifter. DiamondShark Nov 17 #228

If a recount shows there was fraud defacto7 Nov 16 #69

Wasn't aware of the bullet ballots - they don't make sense. I would fully support a hand count. n/t iluvtennis Nov 16 #72

As reluctant as I am to conspiracies, something doesn't add up especially after reading this underpants Nov 16 #74

Please fix your source or delete this post. AllyCat Nov 16 #75

see post #46 Native Nov 16 #102

Maybe you should delete your post asm128 Nov 16 #131

Actually, I did read it. The link was there with where the poster AllyCat Nov 16 #135

ban hammer Kali999 Nov 16 #137

The social media influencers are grifting. DiamondShark Nov 17 #229

The technical report came out a few days ago Beck23 Nov 16 #76

Could you please share the technical report? masmdu Nov 16 #83

There are others here who can understand some or all of that "IT lingo". Any reason you aren't sharing the link? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 16 #108

I will summarize it... DiamondShark Nov 17 #230

K&R SheltieLover Nov 16 #78

Start with the states that he was screaming fraud thinkingagain Nov 16 #80

This certainly seems suspicious but... Wiz Imp Nov 16 #82

Trump was targeting low propensity voters Abnredleg Nov 16 #116

Keep in mind that this fraud, if true, johnnyfins Nov 16 #84

If this were a primary The Madcap Nov 16 #87

You would have to be really stupid to stack 300,000 votes for only Trump and not expected to.. yourout Nov 16 #89

There are posts on Reddit where people are looking at New York and finding a lot of the same thing Native Nov 16 #110

Now I'm suspicious and want to know more. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 16 #90

This isn't about "conspiracy"! CaptainTruth Nov 16 #91

Republicans haven't won an honest Presidential Election or been the legacy of a dishonest one since Ike. Botany Nov 16 #92

Makes more sense to me than him bringing in new voters Tribetime Nov 16 #95

Read this last night, and it certainly merits further consideration CanonRay Nov 16 #99

"Access Denied" on all links about Soonamore on Daily Kos karin_sj Nov 16 #101

Trying to correct the typo on my post... karin_sj Nov 16 #103

see my post, #46. i copied the letter. Native Nov 16 #112

This might be of help. DiamondShark Nov 17 #234

Bullet Ballots? Mr.Bee Nov 16 #105

Not rigged osteopath6 Nov 16 #111

per NBC, experts found 3 dozen US voting sysyems connected to the Internet. Native Nov 16 #114

Pisswig and Mikey's dweller Nov 16 #118

Article from Jan 2020, but still potentially relevant Mike 03 Nov 16 #134

& this other oldie but goodie - Connell being suicided before testifying about voter fraud and also mentions Spoonamore Native Nov 16 #136

That is auspicious. LiberalFighter Nov 16 #119

This looks like credible evidence that the election was hacked. If somebody told you before the election that Trump Doodley Nov 16 #125

a reply to a post on Bluesky says Spoonamore will be on the Thom Hartmann Show this Monday Native Nov 16 #126

This is not far fetched... judy Nov 16 #130

Computer experts? Progressive dog Nov 16 #132

Programmable electronics can be programmed. But, Hermit-The-Prog Nov 16 #138

Musk just warned us on Twitter that there will be consequences for those who pushed foreign interference hoaxes Native Nov 16 #141

Sure Leon dweller Nov 16 #146

It won't be Merrick Wednesdays Nov 16 #199

My Dad voted for Harris and no one else on the ballot. It's not uncommon. Wanderlust988 Nov 16 #143

You are right, it's not uncommon. But this election was uncommonly higher than all past elections. Native Nov 16 #150

And, if not mistaken, uncommonly higher specifically in the swing states Babajida Nov 16 #169

The actual numbers don't support the the "bullet ballot" claim. onenote Nov 16 #179

Do you have evidence that it's not uncommon? The author of the letter states that it is usually Doodley Nov 16 #157

the letter discussed this Native Nov 16 #173

Maybe we should pay these experts big money BootinUp Nov 16 #148

Keep this at the top. nt returnee Nov 16 #149

I'm all in favor of audits. snot Nov 16 #152

Why are we not doing a recount? What is there to lose? pinkstarburst Nov 16 #153

There are statutory requirements for recounts Abnredleg Nov 16 #161

Any candidate can ask for a recount, but they have to pay if the difference is above a certain percentage questionseverything Nov 16 #218

I'm very skeptical here creeksneakers2 Nov 16 #154

he testified in that case. considered an expert. this is all over Reddit and Native Nov 16 #176

I debunked it here: creeksneakers2 Nov 20 #264

I'm wondering if someone threatened the Harris Walz families MagickMuffin Nov 16 #156

Good lord, Harris and Waltz aren't shucking ridiculous conspiracy theories...so you concoct another ridiculous tritsofme Nov 16 #162

Nor am I, I stated it could be a possibility not that it happened MagickMuffin Nov 16 #204

There's a possibility that little green men from Mars used a space laser to change the votes. tritsofme Nov 16 #214

Al Gore spoke eloquently on why he stopped pursuing the recount Babajida Nov 16 #168

Well Al Gore had no choice in the matter after the 5 to 4 decision MagickMuffin Nov 16 #205

Can you post the salient points of that article here? Babajida Nov 16 #165

see post #54. it's there. Native Nov 16 #172

Duty to warn WriteFight Nov 19 #251

I completely believed that Harris was/is a fighter! That she is strong, incorruptible, brave, and different. colorado_ufo Nov 16 #167

I would give money to do this for Harris.............and Greg Palast is really good when it comes to voting............ turbinetree Nov 16 #174

Here is how. After the first $41,300 goes to the DNC, the next $3,300 goes for the Harris recount fund MichMan Nov 17 #235

Thank you turbinetree Nov 18 #249

Democracy requires the certainty that such a recount would provide. n/t Beartracks Nov 16 #175

Could also it be that a large number of MAGA voters cared only about voting for Trump Ocelot II Nov 16 #177

They were targeting low propensity voters Abnredleg Nov 16 #180

In Seven swing states then they voted for trump and then voted for the Democratic running for senate. Ninga Nov 19 #257

And where is Trump on recounts and rigged elections? He barely won a majority bucolic_frolic Nov 16 #178

Well time's a wasting, better get a move on it. /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 16 #185

It's just so hard for us to admit to ourselves. SidneyR Nov 16 #193

Heads up! Recounts require observers! Hope22 Nov 16 #195

What happened to trusting our election processes and officials? HereForTheParty Nov 16 #197

any computer system that emulates human work -- requires human spot checks cadoman Nov 16 #200

Im all for it if this is true....makes more sense to me than drumph gaining voters Tribetime Nov 16 #202

Harris Will Ask For Recounts annielion Nov 16 #203

Any body know ????? aurora the great Nov 16 #206

Jeeze... Not this shit again. reACTIONary Nov 16 #207

Does it have to be Harris? mzmolly Nov 16 #208

I think it has to be Harris annielion Nov 16 #212

Crud. I wonder if a lower level candidate can do it? mzmolly Nov 16 #217

Lower level candidate? annielion Nov 17 #222

Looks like the first step would be for everyone to donate $44,600 apiece MichMan Nov 17 #238

I mean somebody down ballot. mzmolly Nov 17 #242

Unless it is a statewide office, any recount would only be for a limited area MichMan Nov 17 #243

Senate candidates mzmolly Nov 17 #244

When I lived in WI, I watched the REBULICAN city clerk, remove ballots from the voting machine, Bluethroughu Nov 16 #213

This Could Be DallasNE Nov 17 #221

I'm glad to see this on the top of the greatest page nt garybeck Nov 17 #223

Do not promote ridiculous, bigoted, or extreme-fringe conspiracy theories ... TomWilm Nov 17 #226

"extreme-fringe conspiracy theories" - TBF Nov 19 #254

I am quoting the DU guide lines, as you might be aware ... TomWilm Nov 19 #260

I'm not as confident as you are in the process - TBF Nov 19 #263

Spoonamore is a Republican. FYI DiamondShark Nov 17 #236

So is Dick Cheney. Your point? nt TBF Nov 19 #255

Do you trust Dick Cheney? DiamondShark Nov 19 #256

I trust very few people and party has little to do with it - TBF Nov 19 #259

I agree with what you said. DiamondShark Nov 19 #261

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Duty to warn WriteFight Nov 19 #250

Duty To Warn letters WriteFight Nov 19 #253

K&R for exposure. Nt Ninga Nov 19 #258