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paleotn

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51. Was pondering a similar theme yesterday. You see the full picture and why this bluster won't ever happen.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 04:47 PM
Nov 2024

Oh, they'll trim around the edges but the rest is just posturing. The fact is, the true rulers of America, the monied interests, are so heavily invested in the status quo, they cannot allow much if any of that to happen. They would lose fortunes. The same applies to the tariff bullshit and rounding up millions of undocumented workers. The US meat industry would collapse if that happened.

The thing about Hitler was he was good for the German monied interests. He spent all the capital Germany could raise and steal on military expansion and German industrialists made a fortune off of it. Our own version of Hitler wants to take money OUT of their pockets. They won't let that happen lightly. They will fight back.

The irony I thought about yesterday....the monied interests we all love to beat on, and rightfully so, may be the ones that save American governmental structures and indirectly, democracy itself. Simply because they're so heavily invested in it.

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Most of these guys are thinking with their gonads Walleye Nov 2024 #1
Fine, freeze a sample and remove them until they fully fund child support for any possible children LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #49
My jackass siblings and their equally stupid kids have been voting MAGAt for decades. CousinIT Nov 2024 #2
I know your pain jaxexpat Nov 2024 #13
My Republican brother who couldn't stand Trump, but then voted for him. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #62
"brother, can you spare a bitcoin?" rampartd Nov 2024 #3
Funny how the rich guys always get to make the decisions for the rest of us. LakeVermilion Nov 2024 #4
Years ago moniss Nov 2024 #6
Huh? Can you clarify for the concept challenged. You lost me. jaxexpat Nov 2024 #14
People who make, let's say $250,000 per year, pay FICA (Social Security tax) on the front earnings until... LakeVermilion Nov 2024 #17
IIRC the FICA maximum for tax and benefit calculations is about $169,000 now. Dave says Nov 2024 #19
Thanks, I was too lazy to search for the amount. LakeVermilion Nov 2024 #25
Make it 200K and you've fixed SS's funding problem. paleotn Nov 2024 #60
I read somewhere MAGAts won't vote for that now. CousinIT Nov 2024 #74
And it wouldn't hurt anybody. yardwork Nov 17 #93
Oh, okay. I always understood that to be the case. Is it not common knowledge? jaxexpat Nov 2024 #38
Nothing real is common knowledge anymore. yardwork Nov 17 #92
Food Stamps (SNAP) wanderer54 Nov 2024 #5
Yes indeed and sadly moniss Nov 2024 #9
Food stamps... orwell Nov 2024 #32
What you are missing is that... SnoopDog Nov 2024 #7
Not a matter of missing it. moniss Nov 2024 #10
'fraid your exactly right. Congratulations, I see you as officially a member of the progressive nation. jaxexpat Nov 2024 #16
this. it's about theft. ZonkerHarris Nov 2024 #26
YOU HAVE IT EXACTLY RIGHT! It drive them nuts that all that money is sitting there & THEY can't get THEIR cut... period! usaf-vet Nov 2024 #40
MAGAts fail to realize that the economy is dependent on SPENDING.. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2024 #8
Very well put and moniss Nov 2024 #12
I've tried to explain this to my coworker's, friends and inlaws . luvallpeeps Nov 2024 #29
Ir doesn't require a Rocket Scientist to figure that out. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2024 #68
MAGAts are notorious for being simultaneously ignorant and evil n/t CousinIT Nov 2024 #75
Everything that's being proposed is economic suicide Picaro Nov 2024 #11
Exactly. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #39
Bingo Emile Nov 17 #94
It's sounding more like... 2naSalit Nov 2024 #15
Another hidden gem that Republicans have in mind is Medicaid limits. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #18
The strange thing The Madcap Nov 2024 #21
I have begun to suspect that ... dchill Nov 2024 #48
Excellent point about the caps moniss Nov 2024 #22
With Project 2025, they plan on getting rid of Medicaid. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #41
yup Skittles Nov 2024 #59
Idiots. byronius Nov 2024 #20
US farm subsidies need to be cut long before Medicare and Social Security get cut FakeNoose Nov 2024 #23
Remember when Trump had to shovel even *more* payments to the farmers... keep_left Nov 2024 #35
A 30% cut in payments will be about half a trilion dollars Old Crank Nov 2024 #24
Yup! PortTack Nov 2024 #27
MAGAts know how to shoot..... lastlib Nov 2024 #28
I Guess None Of The MAGA'S Are On SS or Medicare..... global1 Nov 2024 #30
I worked with a wealthy Realtor who said that her social security check was pretty much a bonus to be used kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #44
Not All MAGA'S Are That Wealthy..... global1 Nov 2024 #66
"Also - I'm sure there are non-MAGA'S that share the same sentiment that you lady expressed." OldBaldy1701E Nov 17 #91
More to the point, apparently none of them have elderly mothers PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2024 #79
One statistic to pay attention to BidenRocks Nov 2024 #31
Sadly that is one statistic I am moniss Nov 2024 #43
Sounds like another episode of "Be Careful What You Wish For". calimary Nov 2024 #33
They also might have to help their grandparents (or lose help from their grandparents) nt gulliver Nov 2024 #34
Welcome to Great Depression II MissouriDem47 Nov 2024 #36
no one is cutting ss and medicare for those already receiving benefits. WarGamer Nov 2024 #37
Nonsense you apparently didn't moniss Nov 2024 #42
Yep - a 30% cut was mentioned, I believe. And what about people 60 and under? kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #45
link to a proposed 30% cut in SS/MC... I'll wait. WarGamer Nov 2024 #47
if nothing is done about SS the immediate cut is projected to be 21% Skittles Nov 2024 #69
I'm pretty sure moniss Nov 2024 #50
All we need is for the billionaires to pay their fair share into SS dwayneb Nov 2024 #80
link to where he mentioned cutting SS/MC... I'll wait. WarGamer Nov 2024 #46
Agreed, from what I saw FreeForm73 Nov 2024 #52
you're referring to the RSC Budget proposal... which affects future retirees WarGamer Nov 2024 #55
Exactly n/t FreeForm73 Nov 2024 #64
Since their proposal is moniss Nov 2024 #58
because we only care about "current recipients" Skittles Nov 2024 #67
Are you in favor of those born after 1990 receive full benefits at 69 instead of 67? WarGamer Nov 2024 #70
no, I am not Skittles Nov 2024 #71
I don't get how that would keep the system solvent. Captain Stern Nov 17 #85
can't be 1960. Many are already on SS... and planned life for retirement WarGamer Nov 17 #86
Was pondering a similar theme yesterday. You see the full picture and why this bluster won't ever happen. paleotn Nov 2024 #51
The problem is also that they will moniss Nov 2024 #63
i just wonder how the right wing media infrastructure will twist kimbutgar Nov 2024 #53
"It's the economy stupid." Dave Id Nov 2024 #54
so fucking SICK of cleaning up repuke mess Skittles Nov 2024 #72
What if there are no more elections MadameButterfly Nov 17 #96
I'm sure someone has already identified that Dan Nov 2024 #56
One of the problems we have is the wealthy moniss Nov 2024 #65
MAGA are not economically literate liberal N proud Nov 2024 #57
Psst; I don't think they know what 'Literate' means... Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #61
Only if the cult told them would they know. liberal N proud Nov 2024 #73
That's the bottom line. Right!? yellow dahlia Nov 2024 #76
can i ask what inspired this OP? were cuts announced today? Takket Nov 2024 #77
is this true? SleeplessinSouth Nov 2024 #78
Ron is full of crap. moniss Nov 2024 #81
The subject of drastic budget cuts amounting to 2 trillion moniss Nov 2024 #82
I guess that the "firehose of falsehood" approach of the Trump regime is working... keep_left Nov 2024 #83
Yes and it harks back to the moniss Nov 17 #84
My father (born 1922) explained it to me a long time ago Martin Eden Nov 17 #87
Well put and I don't remember where I first heard this other moniss Nov 17 #88
Thanks, I hadn't heard that before. Makes a lot of sense. Martin Eden Nov 17 #89
Exactly, demand from consumers create jobs and fuel the economy. Emile Nov 17 #95
Rick Scott who defrauded Medicare and Medicaid out of billions Emile Nov 17 #90
Rec keep_left Nov 17 #97
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