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Martin Eden

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89. Thanks, I hadn't heard that before. Makes a lot of sense.

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Sun Nov 17, 2024, 07:23 AM

Nov 17

The rich hoard their money, and shelter it in offshore accounts.

For an economy to thrive, money needs to circulate.

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A few things about cutting SS and Medicare [View all] moniss Nov 16 OP

Most of these guys are thinking with their gonads Walleye Nov 16 #1

Fine, freeze a sample and remove them until they fully fund child support for any possible children LiberalArkie Nov 16 #49

My jackass siblings and their equally stupid kids have been voting MAGAt for decades. CousinIT Nov 16 #2

I know your pain jaxexpat Nov 16 #13

My Republican brother who couldn't stand Trump, but then voted for him. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #62

"brother, can you spare a bitcoin?" rampartd Nov 16 #3

Funny how the rich guys always get to make the decisions for the rest of us. LakeVermilion Nov 16 #4

Years ago moniss Nov 16 #6

Huh? Can you clarify for the concept challenged. You lost me. jaxexpat Nov 16 #14

People who make, let's say $250,000 per year, pay FICA (Social Security tax) on the front earnings until... LakeVermilion Nov 16 #17

IIRC the FICA maximum for tax and benefit calculations is about $169,000 now. Dave says Nov 16 #19

Thanks, I was too lazy to search for the amount. LakeVermilion Nov 16 #25

Make it 200K and you've fixed SS's funding problem. paleotn Nov 16 #60

I read somewhere MAGAts won't vote for that now. CousinIT Nov 16 #74

And it wouldn't hurt anybody. yardwork Nov 17 #93

Oh, okay. I always understood that to be the case. Is it not common knowledge? jaxexpat Nov 16 #38

Nothing real is common knowledge anymore. yardwork Nov 17 #92

Food Stamps (SNAP) wanderer54 Nov 16 #5

Yes indeed and sadly moniss Nov 16 #9

Food stamps... orwell Nov 16 #32

What you are missing is that... SnoopDog Nov 16 #7

Not a matter of missing it. moniss Nov 16 #10

'fraid your exactly right. Congratulations, I see you as officially a member of the progressive nation. jaxexpat Nov 16 #16

this. it's about theft. ZonkerHarris Nov 16 #26

YOU HAVE IT EXACTLY RIGHT! It drive them nuts that all that money is sitting there & THEY can't get THEIR cut... period! usaf-vet Nov 16 #40

MAGAts fail to realize that the economy is dependent on SPENDING.. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 16 #8

Very well put and moniss Nov 16 #12

I've tried to explain this to my coworker's, friends and inlaws . luvallpeeps Nov 16 #29

Ir doesn't require a Rocket Scientist to figure that out. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 16 #68

MAGAts are notorious for being simultaneously ignorant and evil n/t CousinIT Nov 16 #75

Everything that's being proposed is economic suicide Picaro Nov 16 #11

Exactly. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #39

Bingo Emile Nov 17 #94

It's sounding more like... 2naSalit Nov 16 #15

Another hidden gem that Republicans have in mind is Medicaid limits. Lonestarblue Nov 16 #18

The strange thing The Madcap Nov 16 #21

I have begun to suspect that ... dchill Nov 16 #48

Excellent point about the caps moniss Nov 16 #22

With Project 2025, they plan on getting rid of Medicaid. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #41

yup Skittles Nov 16 #59

Idiots. byronius Nov 16 #20

US farm subsidies need to be cut long before Medicare and Social Security get cut FakeNoose Nov 16 #23

Remember when Trump had to shovel even *more* payments to the farmers... keep_left Nov 16 #35

A 30% cut in payments will be about half a trilion dollars Old Crank Nov 16 #24

Yup! PortTack Nov 16 #27

MAGAts know how to shoot..... lastlib Nov 16 #28

I Guess None Of The MAGA'S Are On SS or Medicare..... global1 Nov 16 #30

I worked with a wealthy Realtor who said that her social security check was pretty much a bonus to be used kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #44

Not All MAGA'S Are That Wealthy..... global1 Nov 16 #66

"Also - I'm sure there are non-MAGA'S that share the same sentiment that you lady expressed." OldBaldy1701E Nov 17 #91

More to the point, apparently none of them have elderly mothers PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 16 #79

One statistic to pay attention to BidenRocks Nov 16 #31

Sadly that is one statistic I am moniss Nov 16 #43

Sounds like another episode of "Be Careful What You Wish For". calimary Nov 16 #33

They also might have to help their grandparents (or lose help from their grandparents) nt gulliver Nov 16 #34

Welcome to Great Depression II MissouriDem47 Nov 16 #36

no one is cutting ss and medicare for those already receiving benefits. WarGamer Nov 16 #37

Nonsense you apparently didn't moniss Nov 16 #42

Yep - a 30% cut was mentioned, I believe. And what about people 60 and under? kerry-is-my-prez Nov 16 #45

link to a proposed 30% cut in SS/MC... I'll wait. WarGamer Nov 16 #47

if nothing is done about SS the immediate cut is projected to be 21% Skittles Nov 16 #69

I'm pretty sure moniss Nov 16 #50

All we need is for the billionaires to pay their fair share into SS dwayneb Nov 16 #80

link to where he mentioned cutting SS/MC... I'll wait. WarGamer Nov 16 #46

Agreed, from what I saw FreeForm73 Nov 16 #52

you're referring to the RSC Budget proposal... which affects future retirees WarGamer Nov 16 #55

Exactly n/t FreeForm73 Nov 16 #64

Since their proposal is moniss Nov 16 #58

because we only care about "current recipients" Skittles Nov 16 #67

Are you in favor of those born after 1990 receive full benefits at 69 instead of 67? WarGamer Nov 16 #70

no, I am not Skittles Nov 16 #71

I don't get how that would keep the system solvent. Captain Stern Nov 17 #85

can't be 1960. Many are already on SS... and planned life for retirement WarGamer Nov 17 #86

Was pondering a similar theme yesterday. You see the full picture and why this bluster won't ever happen. paleotn Nov 16 #51

The problem is also that they will moniss Nov 16 #63

i just wonder how the right wing media infrastructure will twist kimbutgar Nov 16 #53

"It's the economy stupid." Dave Id Nov 16 #54

so fucking SICK of cleaning up repuke mess Skittles Nov 16 #72

What if there are no more elections MadameButterfly Nov 17 #96

I'm sure someone has already identified that Dan Nov 16 #56

One of the problems we have is the wealthy moniss Nov 16 #65

MAGA are not economically literate liberal N proud Nov 16 #57

Psst; I don't think they know what 'Literate' means... Mr.Bee Nov 16 #61

Only if the cult told them would they know. liberal N proud Nov 16 #73

That's the bottom line. Right!? yellow dahlia Nov 16 #76

can i ask what inspired this OP? were cuts announced today? Takket Nov 16 #77

is this true? SleeplessinSouth Nov 16 #78

Ron is full of crap. moniss Nov 16 #81

The subject of drastic budget cuts amounting to 2 trillion moniss Nov 16 #82

I guess that the "firehose of falsehood" approach of the Trump regime is working... keep_left Nov 16 #83

Yes and it harks back to the moniss Nov 17 #84

My father (born 1922) explained it to me a long time ago Martin Eden Nov 17 #87

Well put and I don't remember where I first heard this other moniss Nov 17 #88

Thanks, I hadn't heard that before. Makes a lot of sense. Martin Eden Nov 17 #89

Exactly, demand from consumers create jobs and fuel the economy. Emile Nov 17 #95

Rick Scott who defrauded Medicare and Medicaid out of billions Emile Nov 17 #90

Rec keep_left Nov 17 #97