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150. To save our democracy! Like its not worth that!?

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About Those Bullet Ballots [View all] gab13by13 Monday OP

While I would be fine with a hand count audit, your last sentence is incorrect. bearsfootball516 Monday #1

Yesterday NJCher Monday #2

Not down ballots, you mean bullet ballots. gab13by13 Monday #4

yes NJCher Monday #7

The heck is a bullet ballot? onetexan Tuesday #162

A bullet ballot is when the voter votes in only one election and not the rest of the ballot. TomSlick Tuesday #182

Thanks! onetexan Wednesday #203

didn't he have those numbers in his duty to warn letter? Native Monday #28

I also heard about ballots that voted for Trump and then straight Dems. Weird. OMGWTF Monday #33

Yes. Very improbable. Beck23 Tuesday #178

7% of a state's total is a lot more than 2. gab13by13 Monday #5

Yes it is bearsfootball516 Monday #8

I think what I read was it only happened at that high percentage in swing states Loupe Garoue Monday #15

Right - it is the statistical anomaly that is raising questions. RandomNumbers Monday #128

Except it didn't happen at a higher percentage in swing states. onenote Tuesday #160

I agree. And he answered his own question. Are people that stupid? Ray Bruns Monday #17

It happens a LOT, it is called undervoting. yellowdogintexas Monday #54

But not at a 5% and 7% rate. Beck23 Tuesday #179

Especially Trumpers JMCKUSICK Monday #87

Of course they exist. That's not the point. soldierant Monday #118

Only that's all BS soandso Monday #120

What is your background with software manipulation resulting in data errors? Forget it...... Hope22 Monday #124

I'm not into arguing soandso Monday #131

I listened to this on Thom's show. He said Kamala was the only one who could request a recount rainy Monday #3

Provide evidence of claims for your question Sympthsical Monday #6

These claims are made based on available statistics Loupe Garoue Monday #16

What available statistics? Wiz Imp Monday #102

how about you show your work NJCher Monday #19

A hand recount should be welcomed by all. rubbersole Monday #20

⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Monday #48

I agree JoeBydun Monday #64

I agree. Do the hand count!!! bikes and bunnies Monday #90

This post should be a thread of its own. Fiendish Thingy Monday #34

It is either true or it is not true Cirsium Monday #37

It's not true. onenote Monday #70

Thanks Cirsium Monday #108

It is manipulation Zeitghost Monday #121

Desperation. TheKentuckian Monday #143

Agreed Cirsium Monday #144

Stephen Spoonamore has been doing this for awhile. nbsmom Monday #158

It's not true SickOfTheOnePct Monday #91

Very good nt Cirsium Monday #130

How about providing the data to show that it is true? Wiz Imp Monday #103

Sure Cirsium Monday #109

The difference keepthemhonestO Monday #46

The Governor of North Carolina was term limited. yellowdogintexas Monday #63

My bad, I was thinking that was keepthemhonestO Monday #134

NC governor was not getting "ousted" unc70 Monday #67

The governor in North Carolina was not unpopular and the repub opponent was a all out disaster onenote Monday #111

I keep hearing about irregularities SickOfTheOnePct Monday #112

You keepthemhonestO Monday #135

So the polls being accurate is proof of the conspiracy? EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #197

Kinda funny you expect a poster on the web to " show your work " but the government doesn't have to questionseverything Monday #50

At this point, I'd like the guy the poster is repeating to show his work Sympthsical Monday #58

I actually think the letter signed by buell and experts is more convincing questionseverything Monday #61

So why not provide the data for us to see?????????????? Wiz Imp Monday #104

I showed my work SickOfTheOnePct Monday #113

The government(s) Zeitghost Monday #122

Numbers were posted, true but they were not counted by human beings questionseverything Monday #125

We oversea them through State and Local Officials Zeitghost Monday #133

To be clear my comments are not about the bullet ballot claim at all questionseverything Monday #142

The work poll workers do is important but they can't oversee computer software questionseverything Tuesday #200

We have laws in place for that. DiamondShark Tuesday #202

In 2020 the Maga raised hell over "irregularities" and "anomalies" Walleye Monday #9

The big difference is they hand counted Georgia questionseverything Monday #57

Correct. They went with zero evidence and turned the country and election process on its head. hadEnuf Monday #60

I see evidence and I have questions proud patriot Monday #10

You are not nuts, this should be a hand count because it is so close and Bluethroughu Monday #11

But it isn't actually that close in any of the states and recounts cost millions of dollars. MichMan Tuesday #164

I think my DEMOCRACY is worth more than the price of a recount. Bluethroughu Tuesday #176

The numbers don't support what you are claiming MichMan Tuesday #186

Asking serious questions is good malaise Monday #12

You are grieving, not dumb Tweedy Monday #13

The solution is easy....count the paper ballots. Hope22 Monday #29

Have you withdrawn $45,000 from your retirement account and contributed towards a recount? MichMan Monday #38

They keepthemhonestO Monday #49

The money is gone. The ballots were counted. Harris lost. tritsofme Monday #55

They keepthemhonestO Monday #62

In states largely run by Democrats...Sometimes an election just doesn't turn out like you hope. tritsofme Monday #78

Where did they recount. Hope22 Monday #80

None of the races are close enough. They don't just do them for fun. tritsofme Monday #86

Yep SickOfTheOnePct Monday #114

No but I did get 10 texts a day along with dozens of calls a day to send money to VP Harris over the last six months or Hope22 Monday #77

The bullet ballots exist Tweedy Monday #123

How is it being determined how many "bullet ballots" were cast. This still sounds like bullshit. onenote Monday #14

There you go, ruining a perfectly good CT with facts and logic... Fiendish Thingy Monday #32

I know. I had the same problem in 2020 when the trumpers were making unsubstantiated claims. onenote Monday #43

I have my own theory: Fiendish Thingy Monday #51

Here's what I don't understand. Frank D. Lincoln Monday #119

The implicit claim is that the number of split-ticket ballots must 0. Igel Monday #149

Not zero Loupe Garoue Monday #157

hum.. what about all the folks who didn't vote for President? DooverBeliever Tuesday #169

The claim is that there were 350,000 bullet votes for Trump in NC onenote Tuesday #170

I missed that. DooverBeliever Tuesday #171

Deleted questionseverything Tuesday #192

So, where did those Arizona and Nevada percentage numbers come from? MineralMan Monday #18

From the publicly available Arizona and Nevada websites. onenote Monday #53

Yes. I saw your earlier post. MineralMan Monday #68

Thanks for the clarification. It would be nice to hear from those accepting Sponamore's claims. onenote Monday #71

I get 2.2% for Arizona Sympthsical Monday #73

Here's how I got my result. If my math is off, show me how and I'll correct it. onenote Monday #79

You're right, I'm wrong Sympthsical Monday #83

Yep. And it's not as if you have to some super genius to do so. onenote Monday #92

I don't think it's quite that simple... Rikki Tikki Tumbo Tuesday #184

He uses the term "undervote" to mean the same thing as a bullet ballot onenote Tuesday #188

States already compare paper ballot counts SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #189

And that's fine. But don't make up a bogus reason for doing it onenote Tuesday #196

Oh, I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #198

In post #85 SickOfTheOnePct Monday #88

I can't replicate any of it Sympthsical Monday #93

It can't be replicated SickOfTheOnePct Monday #96

That's a good question. Why don't they show us the numbers so we know they are real? Wiz Imp Monday #106

That's not what Occam's Razor says SCantiGOP Monday #21

Stupid. Straw Man Monday #22

Many voters vote only part of the ballot. MineralMan Monday #26

Did the guest mention SickOfTheOnePct Monday #23

If there were any good sources for those numbers, MineralMan Monday #24

Looking at actual numbers tells a different story SickOfTheOnePct Monday #85

Deleted questionseverything Tuesday #185

I have 28,438 for the "Other" category SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #187

Deleted questionseverything Tuesday #190

Like I said SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #193

I found my mistake and deleted questionseverything Tuesday #194

If you were adding the first row SickOfTheOnePct Tuesday #195

Deleted questionseverything Tuesday #191

Keep posting, gab! Kid Berwyn Monday #25

It feels like a coup because we lost HereForTheParty Monday #41

No, it's because the GOP steals elections. Kid Berwyn Monday #59

I'm sure Biden & Kamala are aware of the Bullet Ballots numbers KS Toronado Monday #27

You have misquoted Mr. Occam: Fiendish Thingy Monday #30

Look gab, I 100% wish what you, and these others are sayin is true. The simple fact is all we want here is PROOF bluestarone Monday #31

No Comparison Speaks2 Monday #35

What supports this hypothesis that there was cheating. HereForTheParty Monday #44

I know this stinks keepthemhonestO Monday #36

Good points. Welcome to DU! Doodley Monday #66

Was keepthemhonestO Monday #140

And how smart would it be of these devious hackers to not add votes in races that would help Trump? EdmondDantes_ Monday #39

Hand counts will be coming Viz Monday #40

It's not a hand recount MichMan Monday #116

Yes I agree.... Viz Monday #42

How are they linked to fake ballots? HereForTheParty Monday #132

K&R Think. Again. Monday #45

A friend of mine was a poll watcher in Grand Rapids... Orange Buffoon Monday #47

A pole watcher isn't directly watching how people are voting, right oldmanlynn Monday #56

They are not allowed to encroach on the voter's space. yellowdogintexas Monday #65

I think she came to that conclusion judging by the minimal time they spent Orange Buffoon Monday #84

If Trump and the Republicans did cheat in this way oldmanlynn Monday #52

Agreed. Should be investigated. I remain coninced that no way did trump win every swing state legitimately. brush Monday #69

Why should it raise eyebrows? SickOfTheOnePct Monday #115

It's not that complicated. The battleground states are where the deciding Electoral College votes are. brush Monday #129

A hand count is not unreasonable wryter2000 Monday #72

Who is going to pay for it? MichMan Monday #117

I don't understand what you think this hand count is supposed to do. Dr. Strange Monday #74

Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Monday #94

Bullet ballots aren't illegal FakeNoose Monday #75

Thank-you! Harris MUST take this seriously - everything is on the line! polichick Monday #76

On your side all the way! ananda Monday #81

the problem with your argument Oliver Bolliver Butt Monday #82

Some numbers soandso Monday #89

I see different numbers on Daily Kos article MadameButterfly Monday #139

I would go with Decision Desk soandso Monday #141

B T W Mr.Bee Monday #95

It's ridiculous SickOfTheOnePct Monday #97

I brought that up soandso Monday #100

It's because we changed to mail Sympthsical Monday #107

Are the permitted to start processing them prior to election day? SickOfTheOnePct Monday #110

I don't trust anything that MAY be associated with the con man LilElf70 Monday #98

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ConcernedCitizen1776 Monday #99

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ConcernedCitizen1776 Tuesday #163

Data Scientist's Shocking Call for Election Recount Raises Scary Questions! w/ Stephen Spoonamore ConcernedCitizen1776 Tuesday #168

Thom Hartmann Live - Spoonamore interview - 11/18/2024 ultralite001 Monday #101

In Nevada in 2020, the total votes for House Reps was 96.5% of the votes for President; in 2024, 96.1% muriel_volestrangler Monday #105

Kinda undercut your argument with that last sentence... krkaufman Monday #126

K&R SheltieLover Monday #127

Building computer hardware is an entirely Progressive dog Monday #136

He has the data Beck23 Tuesday #180

Yup anf I also Progressive dog Tuesday #183

bullet ballots are bs - they fucking made it too rig to big alright - the biggest rig of all time. Nimble_Idea Monday #137

As an election judge in a county that went 82% trump... in 2020 hurple Monday #138

Critical JR11 Monday #145

Whats the harm of doing a hand recount in the swing states. Dump got his, why can't Kamala have hers? Clouds Passing Monday #146

It costs millions of dollars for recounts is why. Hand recounts are even more expensive MichMan Monday #148

To save our democracy! Like its not worth that!? Clouds Passing Monday #150

You need to call the Harris campaign and tell them you are paying for all of it n/t MichMan Monday #153

Why such hate MichMan? Clouds Passing Monday #154

Because recounts are very expensive and at best only change a few hundred or so votes MichMan Monday #155

Great reason to hate Clouds Passing Monday #156

It is reality, not hate MichMan Tuesday #165

Informational Warfare JR11 Monday #147

I'm all for a recount ... Jeebo Monday #151

I agree I took a coding class years ago and this computer tabulation stinks kimbutgar Monday #152

Time to apply for a tabulator job. DiamondShark Tuesday #167

Do we know these numbers are correct? garybeck Tuesday #159

He has a team of people counting. Beck23 Tuesday #177

If it sounds like a duck... Chadarius Tuesday #161

Look at it this way, folks: If there is a whiff of suspicion about the results and we Dems do nothing, what do you think LaMouffette Tuesday #166

It was dirty end of story. Botany Tuesday #172

If Kamala lets us down I don't know what to say. sellitman Tuesday #173

The only way to believe this is normal Beck23 Tuesday #174

I understand the concern and share it given some of Trump's comments. But I think bullet ballots are easily explained Pacifist Patriot Tuesday #175

I've built computer hardware too. progressoid Tuesday #181

Pennsylvania Department of State Begins Risk-Limiting Audit of 2024 General Election ultralite001 Tuesday #201