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lostnfound

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30. They don't tell us the ACTUAL results, just manipulated ones
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:30 PM
Nov 22

Edison exit polls is the latest iteration.
Since 2000, exit polls have been reporting higher democratic totals than show up in the election results.
In 2000 or 2004, they made up a phrase to explain it “Reluctant Bush Responders”.
They started adjusting the polls more heavily to represent the percentage of respondents in each demographic needed to EQUAL the results. WEIGHTED polls are what we the public are allowed to see.

They pretend that the purpose of polling is to give INSIGHT on different demographics. Basically so politicians can use it in the future to know what groups or issues they want to target.

The purpose of polling in the 1970s and 1980s and 1990s was to predict — quite accurately — the results.
I used to watch them as a kid, and saw that they almost always came in within 0.2 % or maybe 0.4%.

But now, you can’t even find the unadulterated polls. They are more complicated because of absentee and early voting — but yes, they do they have some people standing outside the polling places.

I’m not making this up. Look for Edison exit polls and the fine print tells you about the weighting.

I think if you are a statistician professor or something, it is possible to buy pieces of the raw data for small regions, at a price. But you can’t buy it and publish it, and who would know what to believe anyway?

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American democracy deserves a secure system where citizens can observe vote counting questionseverything Nov 21 #1
How to contact Biden/Harris about this David Boyle Nov 21 #2
thanks! good info. all calls for a recount are helpful! garybeck Nov 21 #3
There's nothing wrong with verifying accuracy FoxNewsSucks Nov 21 #4
We are keepthemhonestO Nov 21 #5
Hand counted paper ballots are not the most accurate way of counting. summer_in_TX Nov 21 #10
I respectfully keepthemhonestO Nov 21 #18
The elections administrator I mentioned collaborated extensively with computer scientists summer_in_TX Nov 21 #21
I know keepthemhonestO Nov 21 #22
k and r BoRaGard Nov 21 #6
GOP cheats because it's what they do. Kid Berwyn Nov 21 #7
Very conveniently, republicans set it up PatSeg Nov 21 #8
This is being ignored by Biden, Harris and the DoJ. Why? Mr.WeRP Nov 21 #9
how do you know? garybeck Nov 21 #13
Dec 12th comes in less than a month Mr.WeRP Nov 21 #20
I wrote to VP Harris brakester Nov 23 #32
I contacted VP Harris brakester Nov 23 #33
It would take about ten lines of code to change every third Democrat vote to Republican. itys. spike jones Nov 21 #11
Not compelling to me ... OldBoss Nov 21 #12
Of course it's not compelling canuckledragger Nov 21 #15
What's compelling about it? ... OldBoss Nov 22 #28
claims that you're some kind of 'expert' of course, Mr. just recently started posting. canuckledragger Nov 22 #29
Interesting Mr.Bee Nov 21 #14
The ultimate problem is the systems that record votes without any paper trail. Bluetus Nov 21 #16
On a related side note: anyone know if they still do exit vote polling? robbob Nov 21 #17
They don't tell us the ACTUAL results, just manipulated ones lostnfound Nov 22 #30
The fine print on exit polls. And they only do swing states now. lostnfound Nov 22 #31
bump RANDYWILDMAN Nov 21 #19
Wow! Thank you! Hope22 Nov 21 #23
Sad but I doubt Meowmee Nov 21 #24
IMHO, after all we know about him, it would be foolish to blindly trust tRump Blue Owl Nov 21 #25
I believe that there are people stillcool Nov 21 #26
Absolutely Loupe Garoue Nov 21 #27
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