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AverageOldGuy

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Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:39 PM 16 hrs ago

This is a serious question. Perhaps some of you philosophers, lawyers, or anyone else smarter than I can answer it. [View all]

I served 28 years in the Army. Because of wounds from Vietnam, I could no longer keep up in the infantry, so, I transferred to the military intelligence branch where I wound up in intell positions requiring very high special, limited dissemination security clearances.

Trump stole classified documents. If I had even mistakenly carried one of those out with me, I would still be in Leavenworth. He will never be charged, never face a jury.

Trump fomented a coup against the United States. If I so much had breathed a disloyal word, I would be under a jail somewhere. He will never face a jury.

He cheated on his taxes, bank loans, and real estate deals for years. I dutifully and still do pay all my taxes, pay my loans, pay my mortgage, and the like.

So the question is: Why should I obey a single law? Speed limits? No parking? Pay taxes? Don't rob a convenience store? Stop paying my mortgage? How about I publish a memoir revealing every secret I ever knew -- after all, some of the info I have deals with still active intelligence matters? Someone explain it to me. Wife and I are living on pensions and social security. WTF was it worth?

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That's a question that's been pondered for centuries. Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #1
I too, have questions as he managed to get away w/ literally everything, even being convicted 34 or so times (felonies) SWBTATTReg 16 hrs ago #5
The Diktator Of Day One can probably take care of those pesky state charges erronis 15 hrs ago #12
And the SC says "Yes!"... rubbersole 14 hrs ago #34
"Why" is totally simple. recovering_democrat 13 hrs ago #40
I've often thought that if there were justice Gaugamela 16 hrs ago #2
Laws are for schmucks. Laws keep the schmucks in check. usonian 16 hrs ago #3
Father Elon. rubbersole 14 hrs ago #35
"in god we trust" rampartd 11 hrs ago #75
"You have a republic, if you can keep it." LudwigPastorius 16 hrs ago #4
Well said. n/t yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #70
Sir, to answer your questions... SnoopDog 15 hrs ago #6
At 18 years old 58 years ago I had to get a doc03 15 hrs ago #7
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch 15 hrs ago #8
Because you're a hero, and role model David Boyle 15 hrs ago #9
At least you can go to sleep with a clear conscience KS Toronado 15 hrs ago #10
He does not have a conscience. Jamesm9164 15 hrs ago #13
Correct. ShazzieB 14 hrs ago #31
Geez bdamomma 13 hrs ago #44
THAT'S clear. dchill 7 hrs ago #88
tsf is sufficientlly tranqued to not give a shit. Assuming he ever had a conscience! erronis 15 hrs ago #17
Huh? He sleeps like a diapered baby. He's been criming for so long, it's all he knows. nt allegorical oracle 14 hrs ago #32
Because we do the right thing Tweedy 15 hrs ago #11
What stands between us and the devil now? Slave patrol? Get real. TheKentuckian 7 hrs ago #84
On this day in 1963 is when it all changed. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #14
Be proud of yourself for keeping high moral and ethical standards when it Karadeniz 15 hrs ago #15
Trump could not pass even the most basic background check Skittles 15 hrs ago #16
Unless the whole game is rigged. erronis 14 hrs ago #19
well it is definitely rigged for RICH WHITE MEN Skittles 14 hrs ago #21
President bdamomma 13 hrs ago #47
Maybe not close, but the closest. Hard to accept that KPN 12 hrs ago #65
Sure seems that way doesn't it. KPN 12 hrs ago #61
The game is most certainly rigged. returnee 12 hrs ago #66
There's an old acronym: RHIP patphil 15 hrs ago #18
Thanks for the memories. I doubt I'll stay around for another repeat of this cycle. erronis 14 hrs ago #23
You and I both. It was a hard time. I'm not ready to do it again. patphil 14 hrs ago #24
Makes me very sad. It's been a long slog. KPN 12 hrs ago #67
Why do so many military personnel follow T? Hope22 14 hrs ago #20
Question bdamomma 13 hrs ago #48
My family members....? Hope22 12 hrs ago #59
that has got to be so hard. I can't imagine being part of a family with those views. erronis 11 hrs ago #69
I'm sorry to hear about your cousin. It's hard not to get the answer to the question. 💗🙏🏼 Hope22 10 hrs ago #79
Everything trended south after 2000 SleeplessinSoCal 14 hrs ago #22
Too bad that George, Tom, Ben and the guys didn't insert a bit about convicted felons allegorical oracle 14 hrs ago #25
Their worst nightmare. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #71
Because you actually will be held responsible. BlueTsunami2018 14 hrs ago #26
I am so ashamed of our country and my fellow citizens to support such an evil deranged lying cheating traitorous kimbutgar 14 hrs ago #27
So true Cherokee100 14 hrs ago #28
To me bdamomma 13 hrs ago #49
Are you are a billionaire, or perceived to be a billionaire? JT45242 14 hrs ago #29
There has never been a time in recorded history Locutusofborg 14 hrs ago #30
Be a serf if you wish but I am a citizen. TheKentuckian 7 hrs ago #85
If there is a law you don't like Beachnutt 14 hrs ago #33
Fair The Wizard 14 hrs ago #36
You should get promoted to president. Then you can do whatever you please and Ping Tung 14 hrs ago #37
That resonates with me. I hear you loud and clear. WE are being overlooked is my opinion. Did everything right and now Evolve Dammit 13 hrs ago #38
But isn't this why people strive to become rich, powerful, influential? Aussie105 13 hrs ago #39
I'm right with you! Mr. Evil 13 hrs ago #41
Well, our bdamomma 13 hrs ago #54
AverageOldGuy.......very simple answer.... Butterflylady 13 hrs ago #42
There is no real reason other than to avoid the hammer. TheKentuckian 13 hrs ago #43
AverageOldGuy, I think you know the answer to this already FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #45
Maybe we need another French Revolution Stargazer99 1 hr ago #94
Apparently tRump is special.... So fucking special.... Blue Owl 13 hrs ago #46
It does seem that the worth of a well-lived life Mblaze 13 hrs ago #50
Because you're better than *rump and you have an example to set even if it's against the dark power of injustice, Uncle Joe 13 hrs ago #51
He got a different Supreme Court opinion than the rest of us would have gotten. surfered 13 hrs ago #52
What Is True Purpose of "Law" modrepub 13 hrs ago #53
Accountability and consequences for rich, white men are few and far between dlk 13 hrs ago #55
The answer to your question NewLarry 12 hrs ago #56
I believe that most of us TNNurse 12 hrs ago #57
Life is not fair. Never was, never will be. n/t elocs 12 hrs ago #58
I join you in feeling stupid when I stop at a stop sign! Hope22 12 hrs ago #60
We are better Rebl2 12 hrs ago #63
We had a slumber party in 8th grade. Hope22 6 hrs ago #89
Simple Rebl2 12 hrs ago #62
the birth lottery tmars505 12 hrs ago #64
"Give Us Barabas!" BurnDoubt 12 hrs ago #68
Some good comments and observations, yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #72
AverageOldGuy CentralBlueTexan 11 hrs ago #73
I don't have an answer Meowmee 11 hrs ago #74
Exactly This Deep State Witch 11 hrs ago #76
When you left the intel job moondust 11 hrs ago #77
Why? Because, unlike iDJT & his cronies, Dark n Stormy Knight 10 hrs ago #78
See for example Emmanuel Kant's Generalization Principle WheelWalker 10 hrs ago #80
One would have to ask Merrick the Meek, why. republianmushroom 10 hrs ago #81
It's mind boggling. I don't think our government Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #82
What you write is what I've been saying for years now... slightlv 9 hrs ago #83
Because you are you. H2O Man 7 hrs ago #86
Simple: Money. The rules do not apply to the rich. SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #87
Because Randomthought 4 hrs ago #90
Didn't read all the replies, so this has probably been said, but B.See 3 hrs ago #91
Glad to be rec 200 AKwannabe 2 hrs ago #92
Imho, because you have a self-regulating sense of honor, and ethics. Ty electric_blue68 2 hrs ago #93
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