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summer_in_TX

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57. Since one-third of the country did not vote at all, the ones we need to convince are the non-voters.

Tue Jan 7, 2025, 02:09 AM

Jan 7

How?

By engaging robustly in debates with everyone. You aren't doing it under the illusion you'll convince Trump voters. They aren't the ones you hope to reach. The quiet non-voters are the ones who can make a real difference. They are everywhere, watching and listening.

Will they see you coldly walking away and not bothering to stand up for what you believe?

Will they see you being a shocking a$$ to the Trump neighbor/friend? (People don't like it when someone they know, friend or otherwise, appears to be mistreated.)

Or will they see you speaking up for your beliefs, countering the silly, illogical, or unfounded arguments of the Trumper? Through you, they could see and hear something that makes them think. And decide that by God, they'd better get off the couch, get informed, and vote.

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My MAGA neighbor invited me over to watch college football [View all] maxrandb Jan 6 OP

Seems to me you handled the situation with great tact and delicacy. Glorfindel Jan 6 #1

It's time they hear this stuff! Tesha Jan 6 #2

Yeah, he seems to think nothing's wrong that they voted for... brush Jan 6 #31

very respectful IMO proud patriot Jan 6 #3

Great job on your part being sober through the election. Best wishes for Senior Olympics. "Crispy." Sounds right. Evolve Dammit Jan 6 #10

Thanks proud patriot Jan 6 #50

116 is a good day Clouds Passing Jan 7 #73

indeed proud patriot Jan 7 #81

Kudos on the sobriety! bif Jan 7 #75

Thank you proud patriot Jan 7 #80

Does your neighbor understand normal logic? That's not a strong point of the magat crowd. erronis Jan 6 #4

They get emotional when explanations are not simple enough for them to understand. There's lots they don't understand.nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #8

Not the sharpest tools in the shed. brush Jan 6 #35

Unless they are all in my face with it, Unladen Swallow Jan 6 #5

Christmas before last, a Dem neighbor went to another neighbor's Christmas party. Irish_Dem Jan 6 #6

That is sick. Would have done same, but not before telling them in no uncertain terms how disgusting they are. nt Evolve Dammit Jan 6 #12

My friend just left and never went back. Irish_Dem Jan 6 #14

Me too mgardener Jan 6 #17

We are too damn polite for our own good. Irish_Dem Jan 6 #25

It's sad we're we have devolved to. Chimps and Gorillas. Evolve Dammit Jan 6 #19

We are de-evolving. Your user name has never been more timely. Irish_Dem Jan 6 #26

I wish it was heading in the other direction. Evolve Dammit Jan 6 #27

We are in warp drive back to the 19th century. Irish_Dem Jan 6 #29

More like 17th. niyad Jan 7 #56

Yes pregnant women are being metaphorically burned at the stake. Irish_Dem Jan 7 #63

The world must be in disbelief Evolve Dammit Jan 7 #61

I'm living it and I am in disbelief. Irish_Dem Jan 7 #85

Yeah. Same Evolve Dammit Jan 7 #86

To me, that's the dividing line. yardwork Jan 7 #69

My brother is a maga Tickle Jan 6 #28

You Know MAGA Who Don't Try to "Own the Lib"? Mr. Mustard 2023 Jan 7 #66

I do; but then again I dont think they consider themselves MAGA Callie1979 Jan 7 #87

You're much nicer and more of a gentleman than me... robleb Jan 6 #7

Just figure it this way: there are consequences for bad behavior. calimary Jan 6 #9

You will see more of this. OldBaldy1701E Jan 6 #11

Someone once told me maxrandb Jan 7 #62

I had a neighbor invite me over to watch a movie. The husband used the "N" word. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 6 #13

Good for you. Evolve Dammit Jan 6 #20

I had three friends who kept using the n-word even though I asked them not to. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 7 #79

How do you use the "N" word during a movie invite?.. Melon Jan 10 #93

I have friends here in Florida. My friends also have friends that lean toward the right-wing side. chouchou Jan 6 #15

I'm trying to figure them out in order to be able to fight. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 6 #21

It's a moving target Hope22 Jan 6 #32

That is a good start... kerry-is-my-prez Jan 7 #54

That works also. (My dear husband got into a tuff with a Maga...my sweetheart has a great right-cross) chouchou Jan 6 #53

Confrontation Southern_gent Jan 6 #16

Yes, you have a point there Dan Jan 6 #36

ding ding ding proud patriot Jan 7 #82

No. I don't necessarily value civility over conflict anymore. My values are that I have Scrivener7 Jan 6 #39

Long suffering Southern_gent Jan 7 #78

smallest majority in Congress ever . pukes need Dems proud patriot Jan 7 #84

Your post exhibits a deep misunderstanding about how we win elections. But you do you. Scrivener7 Jan 8 #91

"Mutzen ab!!" hatrack Jan 7 #68

Magats consider any civility nothing but weakness Sundance1220 Jan 7 #70

So when A MAGA mercuryblues Jan 10 #92

Never play nice with fascists nini Jan 10 #94

I would have gone womanofthehills Jan 6 #18

same here. Our neighbors hung a big ol trump sign on their barn samnsara Jan 6 #24

Rural folks GusBob Jan 6 #51

The only thing I hate maxrandb Jan 7 #64

I Disagree With Progressives Refusing to Engage With Non-Like Minded People TomCADem Jan 6 #22

I'm curious Dan Jan 6 #37

Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, not all of them fit that description? EdmondDantes_ Jan 6 #43

You have a point there, Dan Jan 6 #45

I don't see how that solved any problems? MuirWoods Jan 6 #23

I realized there is no point trying to be civil to MAGAs BluenFLA Jan 6 #30

When they make bigoted remarks The Wizard Jan 6 #40

I dropped an old friend right after J6. yardwork Jan 7 #71

I'd tell him to play quarterback. WITH TRUMP CENTERING. 💨 usonian Jan 6 #33

I'd boldly go if it were a game I were genuinely interested in. Shermann Jan 6 #34

There's a saying I like. PennRalphie Jan 6 #38

LOL VBNMW Jan 6 #44

You court people with policies. PennRalphie Jan 6 #46

You "used" to court people with policies maxrandb Jan 7 #72

We should be worried about courting the progressives Dem4life1234 Jan 6 #48

Lol fuck MAGAts Dem4life1234 Jan 6 #49

I don't talk to my MAGAT neighbors LilElf70 Jan 6 #41

He probably didn't get it hueymahl Jan 6 #42

I do not associate with maga nuts Dem4life1234 Jan 6 #47

My MAGA neighbors don't speak to me. GoodRaisin Jan 6 #52

I'm totally ignoring my MAGA neighbors Historic NY Jan 7 #55

Since one-third of the country did not vote at all, the ones we need to convince are the non-voters. summer_in_TX Jan 7 #57

Excellent!!! ailsagirl Jan 7 #58

They f'd around, now they need to find out Envirogal Jan 7 #59

Smarter than that Southern_gent Jan 7 #90

My opinion of those kind of remarks: Someone I know had some retaliate against them. LeftInTX Jan 7 #60

LOL - guess it beats going to prison for strangling him. Vinca Jan 7 #65

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 7 #67

They are everwhere. Do what works best for you. I am usually phony nice and they suck it up. twodogsbarking Jan 7 #74

trump supporters are idiots LetMyPeopleVote Jan 7 #76

I can't think of one of them that in time will HAVE to work the MAGA/Trump agenda into Bengus81 Jan 7 #77

Good for you. LoisB Jan 7 #83

Bravo! n/t iluvtennis Jan 7 #88

I told my Maga BIL that Trump was gonna appoint LeftInTX Jan 7 #89