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84. In retrospect, I don't think Obama was dreadful at all selling his accomplishments.

Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:31 PM

Jan 19

He still remains the only president since Kennedy to not have a period of his presidency dominated by extremely low approval. He was very good at selling his brand and accomplishments. It's a big reason he won reelection and left office with 60% approval.

It's just that he could never save the Democratic brands. Obama was cool. Democrats? They weren't and it's why they got rocked in 2010, 2014 and lost the presidency in 2016.

In fact, just being Obama's VP likely won Biden the presidency in 2020.

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What grade would you give President Biden's term? [View all] In It to Win It Jan 18 OP

Lost opportunities (including Garland & failure to hold Trump accountable) will hurt him but historians will hlthe2b Jan 18 #1

a poll would be good Shellback Squid Jan 18 #2

B+ OAITW r.2.0 Jan 18 #3

That's about where I am. He played the best hand he had with the cards he was dealt. In It to Win It Jan 18 #7

I said good solid ...... B .... !!!!!! Trueblue1968 Jan 19 #49

A+ live love laugh Jan 18 #4

A- The guy's not Superman, but his character is sterling, his list of accomplishments is pages long... Hekate Jan 18 #5

That's where I am newdeal2 Jan 18 #12

Normally, I don't echo posts but... hotellanai1986 Jan 19 #81

That's tough. He was an "A" president, yet he will return the WH keys to Trump on Monday, probably a low C overall. tritsofme Jan 18 #6

Given the forces arrayed against him, Joe did the best he could: I'll give his administration a solid "B." sop Jan 18 #8

Please remember, 10 years of balderdash. cachukis Jan 18 #9

B to B+ (an A for policy and a C for messaging) Bleacher Creature Jan 18 #10

A H2O Man Jan 18 #11

B due to supplying Israel with bombs. sinkingfeeling Jan 18 #13

B- multitude of goods with some unforced errors uponit7771 Jan 18 #14

A+ Quiet Em Jan 18 #15

B+ to A-... 2naSalit Jan 18 #16

A+ LoisB Jan 18 #17

Well... sagetea Jan 18 #18

Respect Biden immensely and feel good about his term. But you gotta have better approval ratings. Silent Type Jan 18 #19

That's about where I'm at. In terms of substantive policy, he was solid; in terms of political adeptness, he was poor Midwestern Democrat Jan 18 #22

Policy mr715 Jan 18 #36

Notice how the grades are inflated? mr715 Jan 18 #30

People here do love Biden, for good reason. But now we need to move on to the task at hand, making sure we Silent Type Jan 18 #32

I love him less mr715 Jan 18 #33

You need to own that too Bobstandard Jan 19 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 18 #20

B+ - delivered on most promises. Initech Jan 18 #21

A but a Z to media. GreenWave Jan 18 #23

Z mr715 Jan 18 #34

Sadly, it feels like Biden never showed up. Self Esteem Jan 19 #73

The debate was lethal mr715 Jan 19 #86

Which probably explains why he didn't do many interviews or press conferences. Self Esteem Jan 19 #88

Yeah, but lack of transparency is problematic mr715 Jan 19 #92

There was an expose in the NYT and some called it a hit piece. LeftInTX Jan 20 #114

Yes. I remember the broken foot. Self Esteem Jan 20 #117

A - no question. LAS14 Jan 18 #24

A+ mcar Jan 18 #25

How do you handle Florida? mr715 Jan 18 #40

Ugh is right mcar Jan 19 #54

My buddy mr715 Jan 19 #69

I think Florida is lost to us for a long time mcar Jan 19 #70

A- proud patriot Jan 18 #26

C- mr715 Jan 18 #27

That's one of the disappointments In It to Win It Jan 18 #35

Thanks mr715 Jan 18 #37

A minus RandomNumbers Jan 18 #28

I'm thinking A- Morbius Jan 18 #29

What would Obama get mr715 Jan 18 #31

A- Renew Deal Jan 18 #42

Weak agree mr715 Jan 18 #43

Did he really have any control of that? Renew Deal Jan 18 #45

Honest -- mr715 Jan 18 #46

Obama was great at image. Self Esteem Jan 19 #74

C Groundhawg Jan 18 #38

Thank you fellow honest grader mr715 Jan 18 #39

I don't blame Biden for what we all B.See Jan 18 #41

It's tough Renew Deal Jan 18 #44

First 2 years were better than the last 2 BannonsLiver Jan 19 #47

What the hell does it even matter at this point? Blue_Tires Jan 19 #48

Do you think they would have refused to support him too? Renew Deal Jan 19 #50

Agreed iemanja Jan 19 #63

Age was a completely meaningless issue Blue_Tires Jan 19 #68

Age was not meaningless. Self Esteem Jan 19 #78

Indeed Trump spewed utter nonsense but comradebillyboy Jan 19 #89

You're joking? Blue_Tires Jan 19 #96

You don't think Biden's age played a role in his perception? Self Esteem Jan 19 #99

His perception? Or the perception of him? JoseBalow Jan 19 #100

The perception voters had of him. Self Esteem Jan 19 #101

No, I'm trying to understand what you are trying to say. JoseBalow Jan 19 #103

I think certain people allowed it to play a role in their perception Blue_Tires Jan 19 #105

That was the issue... Self Esteem Jan 19 #107

Yes. Biden would have lost similarly to H.W. Bush and Carter. Self Esteem Jan 19 #76

He should have announced not running after the midterms. This is on him too you know. themaguffin Jan 19 #87

Dems bent themselves into pretzels trying to justify Blue_Tires Jan 19 #97

Giving her more than a 100 days would have helped. themaguffin Jan 19 #109

I would break it down in multiple grades JT45242 Jan 19 #51

B+ in governance; D in public relations if..fish..had..wings Jan 19 #52

First president to stand on a picket line. JohnnyRingo Jan 19 #53

B Raven123 Jan 19 #56

C+. Democratic Party D- GusBob Jan 19 #57

A- W_HAMILTON Jan 19 #58

C doc03 Jan 19 #59

I give the President BigMin28 Jan 19 #60

A - (1st 2 years) D (2nd 2 years, as after we lost the House in 2022, he should've kept his pre 2020 posturing and not Celerity Jan 19 #61

Splitting the grade like that is the best way to look comradebillyboy Jan 19 #93

B- iemanja Jan 19 #62

A- mvd Jan 19 #64

B+ Rebl2 Jan 19 #65

You never answered your own question. At least not I could tell. William769 Jan 19 #66

B- In It to Win It Jan 19 #77

Sorry President Biden is not at fault for trump not being defeated. William769 Jan 19 #80

The political winds were not in his favor. I'm convinced he would have lost so... In It to Win It Jan 19 #83

well we lost anyways & The political winds were not in her favor. William769 Jan 19 #94

That's why I said he should have never run for reelection. In It to Win It Jan 19 #95

A- Dem4life1234 Jan 19 #67

Solid B (or maybe B-, if I'm honest). alarimer Jan 19 #71

Policy? A. Image? D. Self Esteem Jan 19 #72

D, maybe a C- mike_c Jan 19 #75

But why? Elessar Zappa Jan 19 #110

A SallyHemmings Jan 19 #79

In retrospect, I don't think Obama was dreadful at all selling his accomplishments. Self Esteem Jan 19 #84

A+ of course! sanduca Jan 19 #82

He did great things, but Orange Caligula is back and wasn't prosecuted, so unfortunately, his term has themaguffin Jan 19 #85

A+ I will miss him n/t scardycat Jan 19 #90

A ismnotwasm Jan 19 #91

Policies: A, Image: F Wanderlust988 Jan 19 #98

Really....he wasnt strong his last 2 years. Melon Jan 19 #102

B. Garland cost him an A yourout Jan 19 #104

B+/A- LetMyPeopleVote Jan 19 #106

A- Xoan Jan 19 #108

B- probably tishaLA Jan 19 #111

B. MatthewStLouis Jan 20 #112

I feel like Trump never left. I feel like Biden's term was a very short dream. LeftInTX Jan 20 #113

I feel the same. Trump was still very much present the entire time. In It to Win It Jan 20 #115

B- inwiththenew Jan 20 #116