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SpankMe

(3,437 posts)
32. I'm not so sure
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jan 2025

Trump has four things that Cleveland didn't have -

1. Control of the most widespread communications network in history, in the form of the fealty of Elon Musk (X), Mark Zuckerberg (Meta-Facebook-Instagram) and Jeff Bezos (Amazon Web Services that can host the prior two).

2. Unconditional support of just over a third of the voting American electorate with another third or so committed to non-voting due to apathy, ignorance and complete indifference.

3. Total control of a law enforcement entity (DOJ/FBI) and military (DOD) that didn't exist in any full-formed way in Cleveland's era.

4. An installed base of corrupt judges who will do his bidding at every turn.

Getting Trump to "not end well" with an American public as stupid and indifferent as they are is a tall order.

I'm losing hope. This week has been a disaster. I didn't think this much damage to our federal institutions and infrastructure was possible. The parallel to the rise of the Nazi's is stunning, and we can't even talk about it on social media without being censored.

I see a strong possibility of violence entering the conversation before this term is up. I'm shaken to my core.

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I hope she's right, but greatauntoftriplets Jan 2025 #1
Me too! William769 Jan 2025 #7
As the vulture on one of my favourite posters said, "Patience, my ass. . ." niyad Jan 2025 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author AZJonnie Jan 2025 #29
Yes, of course! It has been a while since I saw it. niyad Jan 2025 #30
eagle, or vulture? LymphocyteLover Jan 2025 #45
Vulture. niyad Jan 26 #64
We hope she is correct! niyad Jan 2025 #16
Don't you mean "she's right"? mobeau69 Jan 2025 #18
Thanks. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2025 #23
Sadly, it's the only way enough maga will learn anything. louis-t Jan 2025 #2
I don't think Trump will last 4 yrs. Historic NY Jan 2025 #3
I want to stick with you! William769 Jan 2025 #8
I have a feeling we will not see a full four years of Trump as well. Greybnk48 Jan 2025 #26
Unless they rig the election BonnieJW Jan 2025 #34
IF we're allowed to have elections Wicked Blue Jan 2025 #44
Musk and Vance homegirl Jan 2025 #47
I thought that in 2016. Aristus Jan 2025 #42
Same here Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #58
I think drugs MFM008 Jan 2025 #62
I read it's bad for the heart Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #63
Vance will push him out after the mid terms. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #51
Given how he looked this week, I think Father Time will be arriving soon. LonePirate Jan 2025 #54
The only solace is that he isn't in his 40s Dem4life1234 Jan 26 #69
I'm looking for a quicker "disastrous end" for Trump...before he totally devastates America's economy. sop Jan 2025 #4
I think he will be removed BonnieJW Jan 2025 #35
Vance has a benefactor liberalgunwilltravel Jan 2025 #40
Wow, what a surprise! moondust Jan 2025 #5
The sooner the better. Ocelot II Jan 2025 #6
Amen to that! William769 Jan 2025 #11
I believe that's inevitable. I just pray the oligarchs he's installing go down with everyone else on this Titanic voyage Texin Jan 2025 #24
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Mike 03 Jan 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Jan 2025 #10
From the article at the link: madaboutharry Jan 2025 #12
This! Dem4life1234 Jan 26 #68
So, a disaster for the country, and Trump stays in power if he lives that long? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2025 #13
The blatantly corrupt, out of control SCOTUS will Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 26 #65
The trump steamer. Turbineguy Jan 2025 #14
The disastrouser the better Orrex Jan 2025 #15
I hope it ends badly for him ITAL Jan 2025 #17
Trump's rash actions and massive initial assault on government pfitz59 Jan 2025 #20
I'm hoping for the Mussolini or Hitler ending. Mussolini is more likely than chicoescuela Jan 2025 #21
Wasn't it a bridge? BonnieJW Jan 2025 #36
Post removed Post removed Jan 2025 #41
Wikipedia says it was at a service station. Ok with me chicoescuela Jan 2025 #61
I don't hope for this Nasruddin Jan 2025 #22
I see another Great Republican Depression in the Emile Jan 2025 #25
It's likely to be a Crypto Crash. LudwigPastorius Jan 2025 #53
Agree. 2008 redux. Strelnikov_ Jan 26 #70
I agree with the historian except for kellytore Jan 2025 #27
"Disastrous" end for Trump? How about for the rest of us? That mother fucker will bring us down too. dem4decades Jan 2025 #28
That sounds like disaster for us, not Trump. yardwork Jan 2025 #31
I'm not so sure SpankMe Jan 2025 #32
I see issues with every one of those points, although they all, are certainly relevant. Martin68 Jan 2025 #38
Unfortunately, I Fear many of Those Outcomes, Which We Might See As Disastrous, The Roux Comes First Jan 2025 #33
This is pretty much what I've been saying. This administration is an empty house of cards with no coherent strategy or Martin68 Jan 2025 #37
The Banks Will Fail Deep State Witch Jan 2025 #39
I fully agree. Trump was bad in his first term, but his loss to Biden changed him for the worse...much worse. patphil Jan 2025 #43
This is the era of TV and social media brainwashing Mysterian Jan 2025 #46
Everything Trump touches dies. NameAlreadyTaken Jan 2025 #48
Haven't we here already done that? ananda Jan 2025 #49
That's a stretch Cirsium Jan 2025 #50
This does not help us NOW though. alarimer Jan 2025 #52
Yet Cleveland wasn't a felon Dem4life1234 Jan 2025 #55
Mussolini disasterous? edhopper Jan 2025 #56
And in 1893, Cleveland's Democratic party were also the conservatives, weren't they? Beartracks Jan 2025 #57
I hope she turns out to be a better academic historian futurologist anamnua Jan 2025 #59
That is assuming we'll have free and fair elections going forward... Wounded Bear Jan 2025 #60
Doesn't the dotard owe Vlad and his gang some favours? IzzaNuDay Jan 26 #66
Oh please let it be true. GoodRaisin Jan 26 #67
I'll be counting the days but I'm not going to hold my breath? ArnoldLayne Jan 26 #71
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