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43. I don't agree with the premise of this thread atleast until someone produces proof

Mon Feb 17, 2025, 03:11 PM

Feb 17

but using the 08 Obama election isn't going to be very convincing for people who buy into this for a number of reasons. 1 Obama didn't win the poplar vote by just 1.5% like Trump, but by 7.2% so he won the poplar vote by almost 5 times the spread Trump did in 2024. 2 Headed into election day it was pretty clear Obama would win and there was only an inkling of doubt if the Country would vote for a black man.

3 Obama won every swing or potential swing State by at least 4 points or more. He won Nevada by about 13.5 points and New Mexico by 15 points. Unlike Trump who only won Georgia just by over 2 points,Michigan by just about 1.5 points,Pennsylvania by just under 2 points, and Wisconsin by just under a single point. The biggest spread Trump won any swing State by was Arizona at just under 6 points.

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Former US Army statistician finds 2024 election win by Trump is off the charts improbable. [View all] magicarpet Feb 17 OP

I don't know how they did but they did Horse with no Name Feb 17 #1

I'm a white male. Sorry for existing. Doodley Feb 17 #34

Doodley, you have a great opportunity and challenge WhiteTara Feb 17 #44

Please don't patronize me or lecture me. I respect others, regardless of gender or skin color. Do you? Doodley Feb 17 #47

Doodley, your poor poor pitiful me WhiteTara Feb 17 #49

You know nothing about me other than I have said I am a white male. You have no idea what I have done to support women's Doodley Feb 17 #65

I'm not here to fight with you WhiteTara Feb 17 #66

I triggered you? Really? Bye. Doodley Feb 17 #67

Your "Sorry for existing" WhiteTara Feb 17 #68

This part of your Conservative Stand-Up? albabe Feb 17 #50

Manufactured grievances sure do add to his argument! KayossZero Feb 18 #71

Thought experiment: if white males were raptured, would the world be a better place? Sorry, but yes, it would. rainin Feb 21 #76

I don't accept stereotyping, including derogatory race or gender-based generalizations. Doodley Feb 21 #77

Is that your opinion of Pete Buttigieg, Tim Walz, or Gavin Newsom ? A cancer destroying the country ? MichMan Feb 21 #80

Thank you for saying so. There should be no place for hate speech that holds all white men accountable for Doodley Feb 21 #85

That's not how counterfactuals work EdmondDantes_ Feb 21 #82

Very good points against the demonization of folks, based race, gender, or even geography. Thank you. Doodley Feb 21 #84

" I don't know how they did but they did". I think musk had a hand in doing some computer wiz bang voodoo. mitch96 Feb 17 #38

The tabulation devices. Democrats had been so worried about touch screens that they totally forgot LiberalArkie Feb 17 #45

When did 1932 become 'over 100 years ago?" rzemanfl Feb 17 #2

Such a glaring error makes one question their conclusions sarisataka Feb 17 #5

That was my thought. n/t rzemanfl Feb 17 #40

lol at glaring error, you really had to deep dive to find something to "blast " questionseverything Feb 17 #52

92 years is nearly 100 years sarisataka Feb 17 #54

I guess he should of said, " a long time ago" questionseverything Feb 17 #55

I find it improbable sarisataka Feb 17 #56

But evidently not worth checking? Hand counting the votes? questionseverything Feb 17 #57

If it wasn't for those polls sarisataka Feb 17 #58

I'll play since it bumps the thread questionseverything Feb 17 #59

I did not know she would lose sarisataka Feb 17 #60

Precisely how was it tipping the wrong way? questionseverything Feb 17 #61

I am in Minnesota which is mostly blue sarisataka Feb 17 #63

It's hard not to talk about it when a candidate stops campaigning questionseverything Feb 17 #64

I went back and listened, he does not say "over a hundred years " questionseverything Feb 19 #74

Must be that new math Bettie Feb 17 #41

Trump projected about election interference for four years mtngirl47 Feb 17 #3

Rec malaise Feb 17 #4

returnee too returnee Mar 21 #86

Gore was robbed malaise Mar 21 #87

Yes... returnee Mar 21 #88

We'll keep looking for an explanation other than the fact that voters didn't like Democratic message in Nov. Silent Type Feb 17 #6

True, they did not like what we were selling.. I think it's gonna come back and bite them in the ass..nt mitch96 Feb 17 #39

2 ways Botany Feb 17 #7

Right. Data and logic reinforce each other. yellow dahlia Feb 17 #19

If the election results are legit, you are asking me to believe the following: ScratchCat Feb 17 #8

Swing state NC elected Democrats to the top offices, broke the Repuke supermajority in the legislature ms liberty Feb 17 #15

I agree on all points - and I like your style! dchill Feb 17 #20

Agreed. I had a similar of things that didn't make sense. yellow dahlia Feb 17 #22

Starlink was used to relay the election results so I've heard nattyice Feb 17 #9

You heard wrong. Totally debunked. Wiz Imp Feb 17 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author yellow dahlia Feb 17 #17

The INTERNET was used to relay election results.... reACTIONary Feb 17 #13

I've been saying this since November and have been phylny Feb 17 #10

Indeed. Many of us on this forum who have questioned the legitimacy of the election yellow dahlia Feb 17 #25

It's good to have a hobby Bonx Feb 17 #11

Even paranoid people have enemies. gab13by13 Feb 17 #32

Jeeze, not this shit again... reACTIONary Feb 17 #14

There have been many of us who questioned the 2024 election "results" yellow dahlia Feb 17 #16

"I don't need your votes" birdographer Feb 17 #23

These conspiracy theories do nobody any good unless someone can find absolute PROOF. groundloop Feb 17 #18

The only way to have "proof " is to hand count the votes under full public view questionseverything Feb 17 #48

I can't out of hand dismiss election tampering Cosmocat Feb 21 #81

One doesn't spend over 250 million dollars not to get results they wanted. Butterflylady Feb 17 #21

Exactly Andy823 Feb 17 #42

Not that impressed by this presentation but they should keep looking. nt Quixote1818 Feb 17 #24

It aligns with other data. yellow dahlia Feb 17 #27

That 88 Biden counties switched to trump is a huge red flag questionseverything Feb 17 #51

All of that red and yet... Hope22 Feb 17 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author lark Feb 17 #28

Even his little kid is smarter than that. Hope22 Feb 17 #31

More Eloon"s little kid X yapping about Daady helping trDRUMP win the election. magicarpet Feb 18 #70

What the hell is skylink? If you mean starlink, what you read was 100% wrong. Wiz Imp Feb 17 #36

This guy cracking a smiley smirk on introduction is all I need to see. Hope22 Feb 17 #29

Good to see the "smile " police are active questionseverything Feb 17 #53

It's OK. Don't hurt yourself. 😉 Hope22 Feb 17 #62

. BoRaGard Feb 17 #30

Sorry to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon but I don't think Trump won AStern Feb 17 #33

One of the worst arguments is that there is no way Trump could win all 7 swing states Wiz Imp Feb 17 #35

I don't agree with the premise of this thread atleast until someone produces proof standingtall Feb 17 #43

I don't care if people find it convincing or not, I'm just reporting the truth Wiz Imp Feb 17 #46

Swing states almost always move as a group. Mountainguy Feb 18 #69

I am not arguing for or against election cheating, but I know Trump would cheat if he could. But let me say that I live Doodley Feb 17 #37

He cheats at golf Mr.Bee Feb 18 #72

Upstanding businessman too,.. magicarpet Feb 18 #73

Kick ck4829 Feb 21 #75

If you look at past norms, it was the most unusual election of my lifetime MichMan Feb 21 #78

The sitting back and doing nothing part... Kid Berwyn Feb 21 #79

This is why you arrest and jail people who attempt coups ecstatic Feb 21 #83