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Showing Original Post only (View all)Let's say you think this past election was rigged. [View all]
It's not election conspiracy theory IF white hat/red team hackers can get evidence.BUT sufficient evidence could be an oligarch Leviathan.
I saw this video on DU and forwarded it to an IT expert.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220080224
What the IT expert texted back:
"...It's a conspiracy for sure, but this was an interesting thread that needs tugging:
-- Item A. NATO is considering invoking Article 5 in accordance with the Cyber policy, and no, its not because we dont like Elon."
Its because Elon very quietly and rapidly built a low-orbit Direct-to-Cell constellation, in which 265 satellites were in place and operational just two weeks prior to the Nov 5 election.
These low-orbit satellites effectively place the equivalent of a hackers Stingray device in every voting precinct in America.
-- Now factor in Barre Seids 2020 transfer of his election security company Tripp Lite, to far-right predatory billionaire Leonard Leo.
Nearly ALL election machines in this country are certified to be used specifically with Tripp Lite products -- which are surge protectors for all ES&S DS450 and DS850 tabulators, and Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) units for all Dominion servers.
After a year of searching for the right buyer, Leonard Leo sold Tripp Lite to a company by the name of Eaton Corp., in 2021.
-- What has Eaton Corp. been up to?
One week after Musk created his America PAC for Trump, Eaton Corp. announced a partnership with Palantir, a company owned by another far-right predatory billionaire Peter Thiel (Elon Musks co-founder of PayPal), and used by militaries and counter-terrorism analysts. Its customers include the United States Intelligence Community (USIC) and United States Department of Defense.
The Eaton/Palantir partnership focused on secure erasure of digital footprints on Eaton devices, and on AI management of large datasets - such as large quantities of ballot images.
Also of note, Peter Thiel also has ownership in Polymarket, another company with ties to the outcome of the U.S. election. Polymarket had eerily accurate predictions of a Trump victory, and was raided shortly after the Nov 5 election.
In Sept 2024, Eaton Corp. announced another partnership, this time with Trumps single largest campaign contributor, Elon Musk (via Tesla), further dirtying the election waters, and providing a convenient cover for their correspondence and monetary connections.
Item B: Why is a private, supposedly neutral election/voting system company sourcing core components from far-right individuals with direct connections to Donald Trump?
Understanding of product design and access to production facilities, kicks the doors wide open for widespread potential for the insertion of maliciously engineered products into the election systems.
-- In the time period in which Musk was building out Starlinks low-orbit Direct-to-Cell constellation, he was also hosting weekly Billionaire brain trust meetings, and overseeing the ground-level infrastructure needed to pull off a mass-scale election exploit.
With all pieces in place, the remaining question is a probable motive...
Over $15T in minerals in Ukraine, needed to manufacture electric vehicles
Musk launched his bid to purchase the Twitter platform just 49 days after Putin invaded Ukraine, overpaid by $20B (w/help from Russian oligarchs), then promptly converted it to a pro-Trump/Russian propaganda dumpster fire.
-- Oct 25, 2024, Murdochs WSJ dropped a bombshell on Musks two+ years of private contact with Putin.
Why would Murdoch risk the October Surprise, especially considering he is IN the Billionaire brain trust, unless he knew the fix was in?
Trumps campaign speech/confession on Nov 4:
He looked at some that were just shipped in, some of these vote-counting computers. He knew it before it even came in the door. He looked like at the back of it. "Oh, I know that one." I mean, he knows that's how -- I mean, he knows this stuff better than any. And he actually said -- and this is for the good of everybody, it's the good of mankind, essentially.
Nov 5: Trump wins ALL swing states, the Blue Wall falls, not one single district flips blue and Musk is overheard announcing the win four hours prior to official results.
Tesla-Ukraine...incoming...
Today 350 low-orbit Direct-to-Cell satellites are now in place across the globe.
So which country is Musk taking next?
At this point, I'm afraid to ask the IT guy (who's deciding whether to go for a scholarship for a law degree):
Can journalists and hacker teams possibly get sufficient evidence to prove the suspected connections here?
Will free and fair elections end because of insufficient, or even sufficient evidence?
Can Quinn Emanuel, the world's most feared law firm, put the fear into the good cop/bad cop team destroying elections? And our country?
Is it a brave new world of AI-based capitalist surveillance that lies beyond democracy?
We're three years out. Can we be saved?
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I have been saying the election is being rigged since the 2000 election. I spent 30 years working in IT. Retired now...
usaf-vet
Mar 24
#141
I'm right there with you, malaise! That very night of the election I KNEW. Even though he had already told his
BComplex
Mar 25
#151
This is pretty ... horrifying, yet awesome information. I am afraid for you to ask too, but
Scrivener7
Mar 23
#2
Seriously, I felt a little nauseous reading that. But let us know if you ask guy those questions.
Scrivener7
Mar 23
#8
And yet we have to keep our heads. My hope & prayer is that white hat/red teams are working on this.
ancianita
Mar 23
#11
The core definition of red teams is that they're "ethical hackers" -- like white hats -- who look for what harms
ancianita
Mar 24
#134
It doesn't. But we're not part of the IT world, are we. You never know what fired CISA
ancianita
Mar 23
#25
Neither Thiel nor Musk care about American children's futures, nor do they have to care about the economy
ancianita
Mar 23
#45
We don't know. But the circumstantial evidence presented seems too compelling not to.
ancianita
Mar 23
#50
Any company or technology that Musk has a hand in cannot be a part of the election process
Blue Owl
Mar 23
#3
It's scary and creepy but at the same time there is a certain relief in that it confirms more than anything else
Amaryllis
Mar 23
#10
When you say "I've read so far what so many of us were convinced of; that nearly half of the US did not vote for Trump."
ancianita
Mar 23
#12
Do not know. As far as I know he's not on either Twitter or reddit, and I've known him for
ancianita
Mar 24
#72
Read the topic I linked, it has the screenshots that your supposed IT guys commentary was taken from.
Lancero
Mar 24
#74
I saw it. See my other post. Yeah, the irony. Guess you're proving them wrong, huh.
ancianita
Mar 24
#77
Please explain Paul Weiss? I just haven't thought to make the connection. It's important that people know these things.
ancianita
Mar 23
#19
I just looked Paul Weiss up (cuz I hadn't kept up with that news) and you're likely right. Here's why the felon
ancianita
Mar 23
#21
Agree. Tech law firms are outgunned in terms of wealth; an ongoing fight is a war of attrition for their attackers
ancianita
Mar 24
#135
There is. And a feared tech law firm could have teams of investigators on this from the wired money
ancianita
Mar 23
#24
The democratic party should have insisted and paid for at least one recount.
Liberal In Texas
Mar 23
#28
They should've. Just for a baseline effort. But. We can't blame the leaders now. Biden probably knew
ancianita
Mar 23
#35
Right! I heard him. He comes from billionaire money, too. He and Prizker and others could
ancianita
Mar 23
#33
Richest Man in the world with tech capabilities to erase any value on votes/Democracy.
OAITW r.2.0
Mar 23
#32
He is. But it's a 50 state election system in a bigass country. So we know he couldn't do it all alone.
ancianita
Mar 23
#34
And that's exactly what we're looking at with this IT guy's threads of circumstantial evidence.
ancianita
Mar 23
#38
Ok, but do you see what this is really about? But it's about digital erasure of votes, so a hand recount
ancianita
Mar 23
#41
Okay, I'll take your word for it. I hope you're right. And we deserve a hand counted election
ancianita
Mar 24
#79
It's been proven conclusively that hand counting ballots is less accurate than machine counts.
Wiz Imp
Mar 24
#82
That's one piece of evidence. Not enough, though. The rest to get is how they did it. And shut that down
ancianita
Mar 23
#47
Thanks for your thoughts. Some are highly arguable, but I'm not defending this, just laying out
ancianita
Mar 23
#52
OF COURSE it's a question of electoral method. That's the point of the OP. It's not about
ancianita
Mar 23
#64
The past is literally the only source of lessons to learn from, by definition.
AmericaUnderSiege
Mar 24
#86
I hear you. But I'm not sure how the past shows us how to overcome a Big Tech insurgency.
ancianita
Mar 24
#87
Recounts of any April 1 House races. We need a realtime system where the person who just voted verifies electronically.
NowsTheTime
Mar 23
#53
That's part of the problem. The vote tabulation systems. And Eaton Corp. And TrippLite.
ancianita
Mar 23
#55
I'm not talking about voter being verified they voted, but voter verifying on who they voted for as a real time tally. .
NowsTheTime
Mar 23
#56
Sure, that can be done. But it's after that, that we need to be concerned about.
ancianita
Mar 23
#60
That would do nothing to assure people who are convinced there is cheating happening.
Wiz Imp
Mar 24
#80
My suggestion only addresses votes cast at precincts let's say. So Instead of the computer recordiing the vote count....
NowsTheTime
Mar 24
#100
Me, neither, unless that's just what they publicly market, and not lesser known equipment.
ancianita
Mar 23
#67
Tripp Lite isn't an "election security company" unless, of course, you consider the manufacture of surge protectors...
Lancero
Mar 23
#65
"Saw this on DU and sent it to an IT guy" my foot, here's the Reddit topic w/ Twitter screenshots you took this from.
Lancero
Mar 23
#68
The thread to be pulled is based on Tripp Lite being an election security company.
Lancero
Mar 24
#88
Yeah, maybe, but I think the Eaton Corp, Direct-to-Cell and Palantir are more important.
ancianita
Mar 24
#89
Yeah, a lot of people aren't willing to give AI manufactured content the light of day.
Lancero
Mar 24
#91
I hear you about TrippLite. It's the crazy billionaire guy who owned it. Now I get it.
ancianita
Mar 24
#94
Ah yes, the quietly built Direct-to-Cell network... So quietly built, that tech media was reporting on it in '22.
Lancero
Mar 24
#97
You can't reasonably claim that something was "quietly built" when the company behind it publically announced...
Lancero
Mar 24
#143
I wonder if WA and NM machines are in that loop. Because both of those states use all paper ballots,
pnwmom
Mar 24
#96
I don't know because I'm not on twitter, and as far as I know, neither is the IT guy. Doesn't mean
ancianita
Mar 24
#106
there is only speculation here about things people don't have much understanding
neohippie
Mar 24
#102
That will explain why they were acting like humans who were raised by animals
Dem4life1234
Mar 24
#103
DU really needs to bring back the Creative Speculation forum with this stuff
Sympthsical
Mar 24
#104
Sorry. I thought after sitting on the text for a week & checking the names & timeline out, that
ancianita
Mar 24
#108
It's a grand conspiracy! Starlink used their satelites to hack their cars tires (Thiel owns Firestone stock!)...
Lancero
Mar 24
#145
Good question! Better to ask what Canadian leadership thinks. We don't trust the felon, but
ancianita
Mar 24
#114
Okay... I read the link and am confused. Are you granted a hearing? or granted a recount?
ancianita
Mar 24
#137
Strange that Harris stays so quiet about such an obvious and massive conspiracy, involving so many parties!
tritsofme
Mar 25
#160
Wow, that's a new one. Never on God's green earth heard of that "perhaps... treated paper ballots" idea.
ancianita
Mar 25
#157