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In reply to the discussion: Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault: The liberal delusions that provoked putin [View all]joshcryer
(62,515 posts)6. Why don't we look at what Russia has done:
The book states that "the maximum task (of the future) is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".
In Europe:
Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term a "Moscow-Berlin axis".
France should be encouraged to form a "Franco-German bloc" with Germany. Both countries have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".
United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.
Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be "donated to Murmansk Oblast".
Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.
Latvia and Lithuania should be given a "special status" in the Eurasian-Russian sphere.
Poland should be granted a "special status" in the Eurasian sphere.
Romania, Macedonia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece "orthodox collectivist East" will unite with the "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".
Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as an independent state with certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.
In the Middle East and Central Asia:
The book stresses the "continental Russian-Islamic alliance" which lies "at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy". The alliance is based on the "traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization".
Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term "Moscow-Tehran axis".
Armenia has a special role and will serve as a "strategic base" and it is necessary to create "the (subsidiary) axis Moscow-Erevan-Teheran". Armenians "are an Aryan people (like) the Iranians and the Kurds".
Azerbaijan could be "split up" or given to Iran.
Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.
Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.
The book regards the Caucasus as a Russian territory, including "the eastern and northern shores of the Caspian (the territories of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan)" and Central Asia (mentioning Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghistan and Tajikistan).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
In Europe:
Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term a "Moscow-Berlin axis".
France should be encouraged to form a "Franco-German bloc" with Germany. Both countries have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".
United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.
Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be "donated to Murmansk Oblast".
Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.
Latvia and Lithuania should be given a "special status" in the Eurasian-Russian sphere.
Poland should be granted a "special status" in the Eurasian sphere.
Romania, Macedonia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece "orthodox collectivist East" will unite with the "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".
Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as an independent state with certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.
In the Middle East and Central Asia:
The book stresses the "continental Russian-Islamic alliance" which lies "at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy". The alliance is based on the "traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization".
Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term "Moscow-Tehran axis".
Armenia has a special role and will serve as a "strategic base" and it is necessary to create "the (subsidiary) axis Moscow-Erevan-Teheran". Armenians "are an Aryan people (like) the Iranians and the Kurds".
Azerbaijan could be "split up" or given to Iran.
Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.
Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.
The book regards the Caucasus as a Russian territory, including "the eastern and northern shores of the Caspian (the territories of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan)" and Central Asia (mentioning Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirghistan and Tajikistan).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Half the damn things in Dugin's roadmap are policy. With Ukraine however it's backfiring, Armenia in particular wants to reevaulate where it stands. Any sense of connecting with Poland is gone completely.
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Why the Ukraine Crisis Is the West’s Fault: The liberal delusions that provoked putin [View all]
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
OP
This is Geopolitics 101: great powers are always sensitive to potential threats near their home
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#2
You cannot ignore the role played in the coup in kiev, by the Neocon factions who were there
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#59
Well, you couldn't ignore it if you could actually show what happened was a "coup."
Tommy_Carcetti
Feb 2015
#66
Alexander Dugan is a Russian extremist and is not embraced by Putin's administration
newthinking
Feb 2015
#5
you're saying that russia has cut off the uk from europe? how did it accomplish that?
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#9
a british right wing political party cut the uk off from europe? i thought russia did.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#14
A highly qualified admiration, one which doesn't in any way suggest what josh cryer suggested.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#28
Like cuba successfully chose to ally with russia during the cuban missle crisis. yeah, i get it.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#43
And then later broke their alliance when they found out the USSR sold them out.
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#44
while getting a guarantee they wouldn't be invaded. kinda proves my point, doesn't it?
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#47
Simply saying the same thing over and over again illustrates your position as irrational.
LanternWaste
Feb 2015
#61
Yeah, because Solidarity and the Baltic protests had absolutely nothing to do
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#75
The IMF/World Bank crowd needed another victim. And they got it, with a coup.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#50
Damn that FDR! If he had not created the IMF/World Bank/UN/ITO, the world would be free of
pampango
Feb 2015
#54
NO, DAMN those who decided to USE FDR's policies for their own interests. He would
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#58
Not too may leaders are ousted by "coups" when they control the military and security forces and
pampango
Feb 2015
#60
Excuse me? Your comment in no way relates to this discussion. The US WAS in Kiev
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#62
McCain was not there alone. Do you know eg, who paid for these neocons to travel to
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#68
What word would that be? I'm an adult, don't waste time on pre-pubescent methods of
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#73