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In reply to the discussion: I'm damn tired of people who claim to be the left [View all]Caliman73
(11,767 posts)All I know is what was said. The OP stated clearly, frustration at people "supposedly from the left" who use the term "identity politics" as a critique and are trying to pull the party into focusing solely on generic economic issues.
I actually do not think that you and I are having a serious disagreement or debate here, however you say you have not seen Democrats ignoring social issues and ask me if I have. In your last post you stated that it shouldn't be a choice between social issues and economic issues and I actually agreed and said that Democrats "do not choose" they address both together and each separately as needed. You appeared to challenge me asking "who is they?" and proceeding to say that, "when politicians ....move away from identity politics....EXCLUSIVELY....." I answered again, that there is no EXCLUSIVE focus on identity, but argued that identity is critical for many within the Democratic coalition who while they might be helped by economic issues, would likely still be worse off specifically because their identity remains an obstacle that was not addressed.
Again, you said yourself in your original response, that you are a woman and have seen negative effects of that identity, then you questioned why there had to be exclusivity. There does not. Calling out the problems and instersectional differences is not Exclusively focusing on identity, it is addressing special challenges within the wider context of the fight for economic and social justice for all. As I said, when we fight among ourselves about semantics, then we are doing the work of conservatives for them. They want us to bicker about Black people, gay people, women, (insert your minority or marginalized group here) trying to get "special rights", rather than just seeing it as progressives do and trying to have every group have a seat at the table and addressing challenges specific to those groups while fighting the larger battle.
Like I said, I don't think that we are on opposing sides of this issue. We seem to be arguing around the edges.
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