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36. You can join in the call for resignation for the person who arranged the meeting.

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:37 PM

Oct 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027223524

I'm not going to defend the Pope's position regarding LGBT rights. It's pretty clear he's not going to do a 180 from where the church has been prior to his election. However, I also think it's pretty clear that he has certain objectives (mainly getting people to come back to the Catholic Church), he is a very smart man, and the Kim Davis thing is and was clearly predictable to be very harmful to his objectives. Ergo, he probably didn't know until after it blew up in US media. This other numbnutz arranged the meeting (with exactly the intent of what happened) and letting this come out has stepped all over the Pope's carefully crafted message and efforts in his US trip.

You can still hate the Pope if that's where your head's at. But at least recognize that it makes NO sense that he would have planned this.

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CNN Exclusive: Pope held private meeting with same-sex couple in U.S. [View all] onehandle Oct 2015 OP

Saw a CNN banner come up and was like BumRushDaShow Oct 2015 #1

Shows the Pope's real sentiment Az_lefty Oct 2015 #14

but... Fuck the Pope!? tk2kewl Oct 2015 #2

I heard on NPR zentrum Oct 2015 #3

Charlie Pierce gets more to the point, more eloquently MH1 Oct 2015 #17

Thanks for posting this. BlueMTexpat Oct 2015 #30

The "Raa Rha Kim Davis" cheerleaders weren't expecting a Pope punk like this. L. Coyote Oct 2015 #4

Time for Kim to throw the Pope under the bus Geronimoe Oct 2015 #5

Good for him Johnny2X2X Oct 2015 #6

But I think it is little things like this that will move the Church in the right direction LynneSin Oct 2015 #10

In the US, the legal recognition of marriage has nothing to do with religion. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #40

Who doesn't comprehend it's not about the *meeting*? gcomeau Oct 2015 #7

hee-hee-hee Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #8

One told NOBODY the other THE WORLD!!! benld74 Oct 2015 #9

Well one lied LynneSin Oct 2015 #11

He talks out of both sides of his mouth enough that this doesn't surprise me. Jamastiene Oct 2015 #12

It's PR and nothing more. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #15

I don't think he planned ahead for this private meeting to become public. pnwmom Oct 2015 #23

Which is PR. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #24

It isn't "nothing more." He met with an old friend and his family pnwmom Oct 2015 #25

It is PR and nothing more refers to the announcement, not the meeting. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #29

Well yeah, he's the Pope. jeff47 Oct 2015 #16

And that's why I don't want to see our Party hitch itself to 'because god' as reason for anything. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #21

We don't have to hitch ourselves to it. Breaking the Republican dominance of Religion is fine. jeff47 Oct 2015 #27

I gave you a link you apparently did not read. 3 day conference against marriage equality. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #32

"Can you show me his 3 day conference on poverty?" BumRushDaShow Oct 2015 #45

How 'bout I show you this instead jeff47 Oct 2015 #48

Yes, he will be helpful on the issues we agree with. pnwmom Oct 2015 #28

But our side is claiming him and he's an anti gay, anti choice bigot. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #35

It's all about the comparison between His Holiness, and his predecessors. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #20

Are you more proud of him comparing transgender people to nuclear weapons? Jamastiene Oct 2015 #47

This is why I really don't understand all the fuss about this pope, and how suddenly the Church has still_one Oct 2015 #33

of course he blessed their union and wished them all the joys of heaven. nt msongs Oct 2015 #13

He met with an old friend who is gay. Some of my best friends are that way! Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #18

Heterosexism, the under discussed privilege! Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #19

What amazes me is that when his defenders are given detailed factual links, they never bother Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #22

I am not amazed, though I am at some of the participants. Saddened actually. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #26

You can join in the call for resignation for the person who arranged the meeting. MH1 Oct 2015 #36

I am not Catholic. Behind the Aegis Oct 2015 #37

It is hate when we speak out against his intolerance toward us, Jamastiene Oct 2015 #44

Whosoever diggeth a pit Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #42

This pope has Jamastiene Oct 2015 #46

Do we need to defend this OP? Darb Oct 2015 #39

You follow me around making nasty personal comments utterly devoid of substance. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #41

if this is true restorefreedom Oct 2015 #31

I'm rethinking my initial outrage about the Kim Davis thing. It's beginning to sound like a... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #34

Ratzi still lives high..... dawnie51 Oct 2015 #38

Rick SantoRum has an openly gay black friend JI7 Oct 2015 #43