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In reply to the discussion: Yes, Patriarchy Is Dead; the Feminists Prove It [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)As it pertains to these issues, I see five groups, with some overlap.
1) feminists for whom men's victimization and hardship threatens to dilute social attention. "But but... Privilege! Patriarchy!"
2) conservatives for whom "being a man" means being at the top of the social order. Being a victim is irreconcilable with their perceived place in the world.
3) people whose relationship with feminism is based on the percieved need to protect women. "Porn is like child abuse".
4) people who believe they have been victimized by a biased legal system.
5) people for whom "equality", (not "equality for me" actually means something. They consider it a goal worth pursuing.
Group 5 doesn't have any significant constituency, and group 4 are hardened in their conservative views.
Raising awareness is the best I can do. Prior to 2011, the basic facts weren't only in dispute, but in fact were ban-worthy offenses. Rape can't be declining! Men aren't more often victims! IPV isn't reciprocal! The truth was disruptive, but it was still truth.
My advocacy in real life is directed in ways that, in this culture, stand some small hope of progress. No one gives a shit that men die young or get disproportionate sentences, or fail in school. It's all their own fault, or will undoubtedly be rationalized in that way. Rape isn't the only kind of victimization that people experience.
As to the point in your other post about colleges recruiting men? It's illegal it is a title IX violation. That they try do it in a surreptitious way isn't surprising however, because women apply to colleges in which men aren't scarce.
So this imbalance may level out... because more men improves the college experience for women and thus gives a college a competitive advantage, but it's an uphill battle, given the profusion of scholarships available for women and not men.