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Warren DeMontague

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24. I would agree with all of that.

Reply to nomorenomore08 (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 01:44 AM

Dec 2013

Certainly it's possible to get all sorts of things munged up and, in the process, be an asshole.

But to me, the idea that sexual attraction or attractiveness somehow "degrades" people, seems very alien.

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Female idealization of men [View all] Bonobo Dec 2013 OP

I find that very interesting. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #1

One thing that strikes me as odd and inconsistent Bonobo Dec 2013 #2

Objectifying isn't only a male thing. It's a human thing. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #3

If humans weren't attracted to each other... Bonobo Dec 2013 #4

hahahaha In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #5

Yup. Bonobo Dec 2013 #6

I don't know where the nonsense comes from, that sexual attractiveness is "degrading" Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #7

Maybe some, in part due to past trauma, tend to conflate things that are degrading nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #22

I would agree with all of that. Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #24

I agree. But perhaps we should consider ourselves fortunate, in that respect. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #25

Some postfeminist crap for the less discriminating. But... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #26

Lipstick feminists Major Nikon Dec 2013 #27

Lipstick feminism now? I remember a kerfuffle... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #28

The flip-side of objectification is self-objectification Major Nikon Dec 2013 #29

It's all the same. rrneck Dec 2013 #8

I guess fantasy, in general, is really about "telling people what they want to hear." nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #21

I'm coming to the realization... opiate69 Dec 2013 #9

The "Male Gaze" mistake... Bonobo Dec 2013 #10

I'm not even sure if it's worth pointing out the obvious errors Major Nikon Dec 2013 #11

The usual suspects have truly won the day ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #15

Holy Fuck! opiate69 Dec 2013 #16

Apparently my friend Joyce and I are creeps. HappyMe Dec 2013 #12

That was YOU?! Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #13

Yes. Yes it was. HappyMe Dec 2013 #14

I hope you enjoyed the view...I hard worked on it. Behind the Aegis Dec 2013 #18

So are all of my girlfriends, sisters and I. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #17

I guess that makes me a creep too. In_The_Wind Dec 2013 #19

I've seen a plumber's ass cleavage Major Nikon Dec 2013 #20

Interesting food for thought. Seems like a book I might want to track down. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #23