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kjones

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21. Of course, I don't dwell on any of it. It just kinda makes people seem rude.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:58 PM
Aug 2014

However, after thinking about it, it seems odd that people hung up on it consider
context important in some contexts and not others.(that sounds so odd, but I
can't think of another way to say it)

I don't really agree with the OP's way of saying "mind reading" and such.
I agree with the sentiment, but I think it's a little hyperbolic, social context
isn't the most complicated thing in the world, after all, it seems like plenty of
well adjusted men and women are able to negotiate the troubles of social context
despite the difficulties. Of course the assertion that "all men" are somehow hitting
on you, probably said with a "literally" inserted somewhere in there, is quite hyperbolic.

I would always argue that context is important, and people should know when/when not
to make a comment that could be interpreted as salacious or making innocuous comments
in an inappropriate or unfortunate way...
AND they should be able to know, and be discerning enough, not to expect that every
innocent hail and acknowledgment is harassment. It's a two way street.

It's fine to demand awareness of context. It's not fine to then precede to ignore it
yourself.

But long, long story short...life is life and mistakes and miscalculations ARE going to happen,
and then there are people who are just going to be troglodytes anyway. If it's serious, report
it, if not, walk it off. I do that every time I'm alone with a woman in an elevator and she eyes me
which a certain amount of suspicion (thankfully, the vast majority don't). I do that every time I'm
on the street and somebody (female or male) looks over their shoulder with the same look of
suspicion. I've done that every one of the hundreds (thousands?) of times in my life my greetings,
verbal or otherwise, are ignored or, yes, occasionally scoffed at.

I suppose the existence of "social nature" dictates that "unsocial nature" will also exist.
I'll focus on the social part, and I encourage others to do the same.

Edit: To clarify, when I talk about hypocritical use of context, I refer to the insistence that "the
context was harassment" (it may very well be), while rejecting that context is important to an
innocent greeting. If you are aware enough to identify guised harassment, you ought to be
savvy enough to identify genuine greetings (and on top of that, should be savvy enough NOT
to insult, belittle, or dismiss large swathes of people. In this case, genuinely friendly people, and
apparently, old people.)

And make sure your fly is zipped... TreasonousBastard Jul 2014 #1
But ~ It's so tacky to wear a Hello tag on my lapel. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #2
I hear tacky is "in" now LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #3
Maybe Tinder & Grinder apps are on the forefront. Inkfreak Jul 2014 #4
Is that what those are for? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2014 #5
I don't want to talk to most people in public Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2014 #6
Just remember men, they know what you're doing ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2014 #7
Hope you don't mind me posting this here. noamnety Jul 2014 #8
That is assault and is a crime. Bonobo Jul 2014 #9
It's assault and a crime, yes. noamnety Jul 2014 #10
I can certainly understand that. Bonobo Jul 2014 #11
Thanks noamnety Jul 2014 #12
I understand your reticence and defensiveness. Bonobo Jul 2014 #13
What video do you reference in your final paragraph? Thanx. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #16
I take all my cues from Austin Powers movies. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2014 #14
Just had an event 'saying hi.' Springslips Aug 2014 #15
I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. dawg Aug 2014 #18
Man, I'm from the midwest kjones Aug 2014 #19
Yep. Springslips Aug 2014 #20
Of course, I don't dwell on any of it. It just kinda makes people seem rude. kjones Aug 2014 #21
I think it's okay to attempt to start a conversation with a stranger ... dawg Aug 2014 #17
Wow... so this is actually a thing. Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2014 #22
I actually like the "don't talk to me" movement Shankapotomus Oct 2014 #23
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