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In reply to the discussion: The 'rebound' effect of energy-efficient cars overplayed [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(21,206 posts)17. Did you actually read the Nature article?
Did you check out any of the references?
Like:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s12053-009-9053-y
[font face=Serif]Energy Efficiency
November 2009, Volume 2, Issue 4, pp 411-427
[font size=5]The macroeconomic rebound effect and the world economy[/font]
Terry Barker, Athanasios Dagoumas, Jonathan Rubin
[font size=4]Abstract[/font]
[font size=3]This paper examines the macroeconomic rebound effect for the global economy arising from energy-efficiency policies. Such policies are expected to be a leading component of climate policy portfolios being proposed and adopted in order to achieve climate stabilisation targets for 2020, 2030 and 2050, such as the G8 50% reduction target by 2050. We apply the global New Economics or Post Keynesian model E3MG, developing the version reported in IPCC AR4 WG3. The rebound effect refers to the idea that some or all of the expected reductions in energy consumption as a result of energy-efficiency improvements are offset by an increasing demand for energy services, arising from reductions in the effective price of energy services resulting from those improvements. As policies to stimulate energy-efficiency improvements are a key part of climate-change policies, the likely magnitude of any rebound effect is of great importance to assessing the effectiveness of those policies. The literature distinguishes three types of rebound effect from energy-efficiency improvements: direct, indirect and economy-wide. The macroeconomic rebound effect, which is the focus of this paper, is the combination of the indirect and economy-wide effects. Estimates of the effects of no-regrets efficiency policies are reported by the International Energy Agency in World Energy Outlook, 2006, and synthesised in the IPCC AR4 WG3 report. We analyse policies for the transport, residential and services buildings and industrial sectors of the economy for the post-2012 period, 20132030. The estimated direct rebound effect, implicit in the IEA WEO/IPCC AR4 estimates, is treated as exogenous, based on estimates from the literature, globally about 10%. The total rebound effect, however, is 31% by 2020 rising to 52% by 2030. The total effect includes the direct effect and the effects of (1) the lower cost of energy on energy demand in the three broad sectors as well as of (2) the extra consumers expenditure from higher (implicit) real income and (3) the extra energy-efficiency investments. The rebound effects build up over time as the economic system adapts to the higher real incomes from the energy savings and the investments.
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November 2009, Volume 2, Issue 4, pp 411-427
[font size=5]The macroeconomic rebound effect and the world economy[/font]
Terry Barker, Athanasios Dagoumas, Jonathan Rubin
[font size=4]Abstract[/font]
[font size=3]This paper examines the macroeconomic rebound effect for the global economy arising from energy-efficiency policies. Such policies are expected to be a leading component of climate policy portfolios being proposed and adopted in order to achieve climate stabilisation targets for 2020, 2030 and 2050, such as the G8 50% reduction target by 2050. We apply the global New Economics or Post Keynesian model E3MG, developing the version reported in IPCC AR4 WG3. The rebound effect refers to the idea that some or all of the expected reductions in energy consumption as a result of energy-efficiency improvements are offset by an increasing demand for energy services, arising from reductions in the effective price of energy services resulting from those improvements. As policies to stimulate energy-efficiency improvements are a key part of climate-change policies, the likely magnitude of any rebound effect is of great importance to assessing the effectiveness of those policies. The literature distinguishes three types of rebound effect from energy-efficiency improvements: direct, indirect and economy-wide. The macroeconomic rebound effect, which is the focus of this paper, is the combination of the indirect and economy-wide effects. Estimates of the effects of no-regrets efficiency policies are reported by the International Energy Agency in World Energy Outlook, 2006, and synthesised in the IPCC AR4 WG3 report. We analyse policies for the transport, residential and services buildings and industrial sectors of the economy for the post-2012 period, 20132030. The estimated direct rebound effect, implicit in the IEA WEO/IPCC AR4 estimates, is treated as exogenous, based on estimates from the literature, globally about 10%. The total rebound effect, however, is 31% by 2020 rising to 52% by 2030. The total effect includes the direct effect and the effects of (1) the lower cost of energy on energy demand in the three broad sectors as well as of (2) the extra consumers expenditure from higher (implicit) real income and (3) the extra energy-efficiency investments. The rebound effects build up over time as the economic system adapts to the higher real incomes from the energy savings and the investments.
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(Summary: There is a rebound effect, however, it is not 100%, let alone greater than 100%.)
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I guess we should try to make sure that any money savings from cheaper energy
limpyhobbler
Jan 2013
#1
True belivers in “Jevons’ Paradox” will tell you that such efforts would fail
OKIsItJustMe
Jan 2013
#2
It seems like more of an abstract philosophy question that a real world problem.
limpyhobbler
Jan 2013
#3
No energy has yet been conserved. In this example we just have more consumption
NoOneMan
Jan 2013
#9
“The point of making things more efficient is to allow the whole system to keep growing.”
OKIsItJustMe
Jan 2013
#13