Gun Control & RKBA

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101. Keyword being "properly".

Sun May 8, 2016, 01:24 PM

May 2016

Which brings us back to the beginning. How does anyone know that a person with a gun is trustworthy and above suspicious vs. a deranged madman planning on ending his miserable existence in a blaze of glory?

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The claim that someone fears gun owners so much that they would flee without paying for food [View all] Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 OP

If somebody takes his AR-15 out on a dinner date, I reserve the right to run away. (nt) stone space May 2016 #1

I'd wager Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #6

Sympathy, shmympathy. I'd leave to avoid dying. Jerry442 May 2016 #17

Define "displaying." Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #28

Except that they're dangerous to the public... scscholar May 2016 #227

What do you do about the concealed carry people around you? DonP May 2016 #235

Open carry is legal here in WA... scscholar May 2016 #236

My question was what do you do about concealed carry, not open DonP May 2016 #238

Define "dangerous to the public" Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #240

You're more likely to be struck by lightning than Press Virginia May 2016 #64

Really? Buzz cook May 2016 #134

I didn't say KILLED by lightning. Press Virginia May 2016 #136

Ok then prove your claim Buzz cook May 2016 #150

You keep trying to change the argument. Press Virginia May 2016 #154

This is the post I'm responding to. Buzz cook May 2016 #160

Yes. Struck not killed. Murdered by rifle not Press Virginia May 2016 #175

So prove your point Buzz cook May 2016 #217

Open-carry demonstrators marched in Austin during the SXSW festival in 2014... Eleanors38 May 2016 #62

What if I bring my Loving Wife to a nice oneshooter May 2016 #86

Good point, all these "Dine and Dash" supporters are already eating around guns DonP May 2016 #96

such delicate flowers EdwardBernays May 2016 #2

Ditto. SusanCalvin May 2016 #41

True EdwardBernays May 2016 #45

Why not.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #46

Definitely EdwardBernays May 2016 #56

Places of business are private property. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #60

Yep. SusanCalvin May 2016 #123

Yep. That's exactly what I'd do. Oops, not quite. SusanCalvin May 2016 #119

would you pay or leave money? Duckhunter935 May 2016 #131

Please consult my previous posts. Not to mention the post I was replying to. SusanCalvin May 2016 #132

Thanks Duckhunter935 May 2016 #133

If there was not a "no guns" sign, that's not right. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #135

Agreed Duckhunter935 May 2016 #140

Yeah, better safe than sorry. stone space May 2016 #47

Are you suggesting the victims of gun violence My Good Babushka May 2016 #3

No. That is not what I'm claiming. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #7

If they say they would leave a restaurant if guns were present My Good Babushka May 2016 #10

Do drunk drivers keep you off the streets? Because they kill more than neglient discharges. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #16

Yes, actually My Good Babushka May 2016 #18

Exactly. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #42

Yet the law has an absolute prohibition against driving drunk. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #241

Of course not, I'm not against gun ownership. My Good Babushka May 2016 #244

But someone who isn't using a car in an irresponsible manner doesn't force you to quit the roads. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #245

And I still eat in restaurants, too. nt. My Good Babushka May 2016 #246

They are doing everything in their power to keep gun nuts with guns out of communal spaces. Squinch May 2016 #4

The gun owners I know are good natured and take insults with humor. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #8

And yet, in the incident I am thinking about, there were still a lot of dumb looking man-boys Squinch May 2016 #9

No one pointed any guns at Bloomberg's astroturf group. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #13

Don't even know what you are talking about here, but you seem to be making an assertion Squinch May 2016 #15

You're making an assertion you seem unable to support. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #25

You're fighting a silly argument. The number of gun deaths in this country is nuts. Squinch May 2016 #38

No, actually he was fighting a logical argument. Straw Man May 2016 #58

There is only one goal post: gun deaths in this country are insane and unnecessary. Squinch May 2016 #61

Nice rant. Straw Man May 2016 #90

Gun deaths in America are insane and unnecessary. What are gun owners willing to do to stop them? Squinch May 2016 #113

How about ... Straw Man May 2016 #141

How about life in prison TeddyR May 2016 #146

I support that. Kang Colby May 2016 #148

"no matter how much you like your hobby." beergood May 2016 #107

Blablablablabla. Squinch May 2016 #111

very grown up Duckhunter935 May 2016 #118

thats cute my 3 yr old beergood May 2016 #196

Why don't you answer his question Duckhunter935 May 2016 #81

No, really it's not. What's uncomfortable is that you guys NEVER address the actual question: Squinch May 2016 #110

reasonable measures that actually might work Duckhunter935 May 2016 #117

The truth is hard for some to get Duckhunter935 May 2016 #80

You are seriously defending those assholes? Infantile gun nuts who, armed to the teeth, Squinch May 2016 #121

Nope, I do not care for open carry Duckhunter935 May 2016 #124

based on what evidence? gejohnston May 2016 #145

"felt the need to point a bunch of weapons at a mother's group at Starbucks" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #19

Google is your friend. Squinch May 2016 #20

Don't be like that. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #22

Back at ya. And nice edit from your original "don't be a pr**k." But not nice enough. Squinch May 2016 #23

Hitchens's razor sarisataka May 2016 #63

That's nice, dear. Squinch May 2016 #65

Let me simplify sarisataka May 2016 #73

That's nice, dear. Squinch May 2016 #74

Stunningly eloquent sarisataka May 2016 #76

You lost most anti's at... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #70

You give too much credit sarisataka May 2016 #77

"Yet when presented with peer reviewed data produced by the experts in the field or government Brickbat May 2016 #85

Like it or not Pakid May 2016 #5

"Guns can and do discharge when drop and have injured and kill innocent people." Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #11

Your rebuttal of "no they don't" is flatly wrong. My Good Babushka May 2016 #21

You're moving the goal posts. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #24

Problem Solved...? CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #26

And you're saying there is no danger unless a gun is explicitly dropped My Good Babushka May 2016 #27

Dropping a gun doesn't make the hammer pull back and fall forward. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #29

You're quibbling My Good Babushka May 2016 #35

"Accidental discharge" interchangeably with "negligent discharge" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #43

All they ever do is quibble. It's all they have. Squinch May 2016 #122

"It's not a clip, it's a magazine." stone space May 2016 #144

Exactly! Not those words, but that tactic, is trotted out in every conversation with these guys. Squinch May 2016 #156

Yup. Same tactic, reguardless of the situation. stone space May 2016 #159

And you were able to put that together in about 5 minutes. It's all they ever do. Squinch May 2016 #161

I did a search of my own posts with the word "clip". stone space May 2016 #162

I could have saved myself some effort by just waiting 10 minutes. stone space May 2016 #170

Only those who know a Webley-Vickers 50.80 inside & out... Jerry442 May 2016 #198

SPOONS KILL PEOPLE! DO YOU WANT TO OUTLAW SPOONS??? Squinch May 2016 #212

Correction. Straw Man May 2016 #216

Not exactly "all we have"; we also have two decades of court, legislative and state house wins. DonP May 2016 #149

I'm expecting crickets in response, very few actually do anything Lurks Often May 2016 #152

Nah, probaby just another one putting me on ignore DonP May 2016 #155

So your problem is that I'm not doing enough to stop YOUR hobby from being responsible for Squinch May 2016 #157

Quibble? LoL! No, your efforts are just pathetic, ineffective and misdirected DonP May 2016 #165

Through your hobby, you enable and support the gun industry that is responsible for the insane and Squinch May 2016 #177

do you smoke pot? gejohnston May 2016 #178

Nope. Don't do either. Buy your post is an admission that I am correct, that you do recognize that Squinch May 2016 #179

I have no responsibility at all gejohnston May 2016 #180

You know you do. Squinch May 2016 #182

no, not at all gejohnston May 2016 #184

Suuuuuure. Your frantic justifications and attempts at distraction are all because you are Squinch May 2016 #185

I'm providing American and German jobs gejohnston May 2016 #186

Waste of electrons CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #187

Yep. It's a hobby. Squinch May 2016 #188

What gauge? gejohnston May 2016 #189

N CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #190

Love my N Gauge, wish I could afford a Z gauge set up DonP May 2016 #192

I lucked out CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #193

"Hobby", that's funny coming from you. Pathetic but funny. DonP May 2016 #191

You are enabling, financing and supporting the industry that is responsible for the fact that there Squinch May 2016 #194

Of course I am, just like you are financing wars and death in the middle east ... DonP May 2016 #197

Wow! You are working really hard not to look at the fact that I am pointing out to you! Squinch May 2016 #211

Sorry, your online Psychoanalysis permit expired last week DonP May 2016 #213

No one needs a permit to see exactly what is going on with you guys. It's plain to all but you. Squinch May 2016 #215

If you got better at your 'hobby' of posting your political views online... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #218

At least my hobby doesn't support, fund and enable the industry that is responsible for the Squinch May 2016 #223

Another untruth. beevul May 2016 #225

No. People make bad choices everywhere. Only here, where your hobby enables, funds and Squinch May 2016 #226

Here in NoVa a number of gang members TeddyR May 2016 #228

Sorry. You're wrong. beevul May 2016 #229

Ridiculous. Your argument boils down to, "If people didn't kill people with guns there would be no Squinch May 2016 #230

No. It really doesn't. beevul May 2016 #231

Hmm...if there were no gun manufacturers, there would be no guns. jmg257 May 2016 #232

You didn't answer my question TeddyR May 2016 #234

Bad choices. Straw Man May 2016 #239

Um, no. People making bad choices are responsible for gun deaths friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #247

But guns are evil discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #248

A mechanically defective car is not the same as a reckless driver. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #242

Bend man shot by wife's gun improving Human101948 May 2016 #30

'Bend man....' CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #49

According to the article, his name is Richard Lee Cooper. stone space May 2016 #50

Humor..... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #51

That you think mocking that guy is humor really explains so very, very much. djean111 May 2016 #52

I was not mocking the guy. CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #54

I live in Florida. djean111 May 2016 #92

Upstate New York... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #158

A gun is accidentally discharged inside a Chipotle in Sandy; gun owner not cited Human101948 May 2016 #31

Gun owner not cited? CrispyQ May 2016 #57

Taurus Settlement and Drop-Safety Recall Human101948 May 2016 #32

Taurus model pistols recalled for causing fatal misfires Human101948 May 2016 #36

And I thought manufacturers were exempt from lawsuits Duckhunter935 May 2016 #82

Mississippi girl shot in face in ER when mom drops purse and gun fires Human101948 May 2016 #33

Man drops gun in movie theater, shooting self in buttocks Human101948 May 2016 #34

"during a showing of “The Bourne Legacy.” " CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #44

Tactical Response Instructor Has Negligent Discharge Into Student’s Vehicle Human101948 May 2016 #39

"by having all of the students throw their pistols to the ground." CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #48

Right on My Good Babushka May 2016 #12

This >>> Guns don't belong in the public square. CrispyQ May 2016 #55

Please see.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #14

Even the cops freak out when they see a Black man safeinOhio May 2016 #37

And this might be THE most important point in all of this. "Open Carry" is bullshit. The Squinch May 2016 #40

I'm generally against open carry in town krispos42 May 2016 #66

People who carry firearms in public are considered crazy. HassleCat May 2016 #53

You're more likely to be struck by lightning than Press Virginia May 2016 #67

Well founded HassleCat May 2016 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Press Virginia May 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Press Virginia May 2016 #75

By people that hate guns... beevul May 2016 #108

"Screw with me and I'll kill you!" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #171

I realize that. HassleCat May 2016 #195

It's an attention getting power trip that has more to do with power, ego and vanity than gun rights. procon May 2016 #59

How many OC advocates have gone on a rampage Press Virginia May 2016 #68

Why? Because nuts with guns shoot people. procon May 2016 #83

IOWs you fear something that hasn't actually happened Press Virginia May 2016 #84

Yes, and with good reason, yeah? procon May 2016 #88

You mean the people who've prepared themselves Press Virginia May 2016 #91

Why should I, or any sane person, believe that fantasy? procon May 2016 #97

Your irrational fear of holstered pistols is funny. Almost as funny as your fear Press Virginia May 2016 #99

What's the difference between an procon May 2016 #103

About to become one? do you live in fear of drivers who may be Press Virginia May 2016 #105

You keep backtracking skipping past the singular most important question. procon May 2016 #112

Where is the gun? You live in fear of what Press Virginia May 2016 #115

LOL - Your argument just ran out of gas, yeah? procon May 2016 #126

I compared your irrational hysteria to the wingers Press Virginia May 2016 #129

The fear of open carriers is a moral panic, different from the right-wing transphobic one only... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #128

So it's moral to live in fear of something that Press Virginia May 2016 #130

Those that buy into to either one apparently think so friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #137

OC advocates aren't citing fear as the reason Press Virginia May 2016 #138

Please do not compare trans folks with deadly weapons. stone space May 2016 #142

I didn't- I compared two moral panics to each other, *not* 'people to inanimate objects' friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #143

Please do not criticise peoples posts until you can honestly respond to them. beevul May 2016 #147

And nuts with knives cut, stab and kill people. oneshooter May 2016 #87

It's not just people; you omitted 'guns'; it's people with guns. procon May 2016 #89

People with HOLSTERED guns. Press Virginia May 2016 #93

Are holsters somehow permanently welded shut? procon May 2016 #94

A holstered pistol is no threat to anyone Press Virginia May 2016 #95

Sorta like an unlit stick of dynamite isn't a risky threat, yeah? nt procon May 2016 #98

If properly stored and handled, no, it's not dangerous. Press Virginia May 2016 #100

Keyword being "properly". procon May 2016 #101

Is the gun in a holster? Then it's not a threat. Press Virginia May 2016 #102

Holsters are designed for guns to go in, and guns to come out. procon May 2016 #104

So you live in fear of the gun coming out of the holster....even though Press Virginia May 2016 #106

How do we know you don't plan on mowing people down with your car? beevul May 2016 #114

" the few thousand people across the country who can't leave home without a gun" beevul May 2016 #109

What is the guy with the holstered gun so afraid of that ... JoePhilly May 2016 #151

You assume he's afraid. Press Virginia May 2016 #153

So he's carrying it because of body weight imbalance? JoePhilly May 2016 #166

he could just be returning or going to a gun range Press Virginia May 2016 #174

His own insignificance. Squinch May 2016 #163

I was in the woods today, CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #164

"The woods" is not a Wendy's, or a Target, or an Applebees ... JoePhilly May 2016 #167

Please look for an article I am writing about CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #168

"Wendy's, or a Target, or an Applebees" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #169

Sounds like you've never lived in a city. JoePhilly May 2016 #172

I grew up in East New York, Brooklyn CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #173

Or McDonald's sarisataka May 2016 #183

Guns scare me, and when I see them I get scared ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #78

You never know when a toddler will shoot you gwheezie May 2016 #79

Which has happened a few times in the past month alone. Squinch May 2016 #116

If customers felt they needed to display their weapons in a business, SusanCalvin May 2016 #120

as is your right Duckhunter935 May 2016 #125

Yep. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #127

Everyone has their hobbies. cheapdate May 2016 #139

Poor poor gun owners! OMG they are being antagonized and inflamed! Sorry, this is garbage. nt thereismore May 2016 #176

Well THAT was a substantive response ... Straw Man May 2016 #181

I guess that means gun owners aren't nearly the threat they' re being portrayed to be. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #200

Is commenting at DU as dangerous as dining with ammosexuals and their AR-15s? stone space May 2016 #199

You really expend absurd levels of energy to misrepresent what people say. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #201

I read your OP. It is inexplicably weird. stone space May 2016 #202

As I said previously, that is not what the OP is about and I suspect you know that. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #203

What is it about? stone space May 2016 #204

When you decide to show enough maturity to honestly deal with a subject I will address your comments Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #206

It's your OP. Talking about the dangers of posting on DU and... stone space May 2016 #207

It would be nice if you showed just Duckhunter935 May 2016 #210

When you decide to show enough maturity to honestly deal with a subject I will address your comments Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #214

I don't doubt his sincerity, what's lacking is accuracy. I'm sure he believes every word he posts... friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #219

I'm torn as to which is the more disturbing thought. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #243

You sure seem to have a sexual thing Duckhunter935 May 2016 #205

You do understand that guns are not people, don't you? stone space May 2016 #208

Yep, I also think you have Duckhunter935 May 2016 #209

You do understand that your moral panic is no different than any other, don't you? friendly_iconoclast May 2016 #220

Its very easy to be brave via the anonymity of the internet. jmg257 May 2016 #221

As I write this we are sitting in Cracker Barrel oneshooter May 2016 #222

Meal complete, just sipping coffee oneshooter May 2016 #224

I made a bet with myself: that no gun person could ever fail to have the last word... Jerry442 May 2016 #233

What an intelligent, thoughtful, and well stated oneshooter May 2016 #237