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Buckeye_Democrat

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24. I'm sorry for your anxiety.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 02:21 PM
Aug 2016

I had a bad dream the night after seeing riot videos from Milwaukee. I dreamed that I was in a mostly African American neighborhood and people were trying to kill me because of my skin color.

That was the first time that I had a nightmare like that, and I was able to dispel the anxiety quickly after I awoke. I live in an area with more African Americans compared to the national average, but there's still mostly white people around me. (I don't have much privilege in many ways, but I'll acknowledge that my situation would probably be even worse if I was black.) If I imagine myself as an African American who has witnessed past and present hatred and violence towards them, it seems likely that such concern would exist in my mind. I get all kinds of privilege for my skin color, such as being able to travel most places to mostly see other white people who I doubt will dislike me because of a silly trait like skin color.

I'm very sorry about the situation. I can only assure you that most white people that I've met don't seem to have any animosity toward African Americans at all (at least here in SW Ohio)! A problem is that they exist at all and that African Americans can't really know which ones have animosity right away. I often can't tell either unless one of them speaks to me privately and thus reveal themselves.

As for the causes, media might play a bigger role than I used to think. Some of the most racist people that I've met at jobs aren't white. Here's a couple recent examples...

I was telling a man and woman from Sri Lanka (who moved to the USA because their son became a medical doctor here) that we're ultimately all related to each other and that humanity originated in Africa. Both of them strongly denied that possibility. I assured them that scientists who study archaeology, biology (DNA markers) and other related fields have established it as fact. They again denied that possibility. The man said that I might've descended from Africa if that's what I want to believe, but they did NOT! I first wondered if they had an old myth about the origin of their people, but other comments were made by them that made it clear that they simply didn't want to be related to Africans. Coincidentally, the man easily had the darkest skin color in the entire factory. He was darker than any of the African American workers there. (Not that his skin color really means very much in ancestral terms, although the recent or distant ancestors of everyone was likely very dark at some point in the past.)

There was a Vietnamese-American who also worked there. He first came to the USA in the 80's, and he sometimes spoke of his idiotic "theory" about people from around the world and which ones looked most like primates (in his mind).

What I found interesting was that the Vietnamese guy would sometimes speak openly about his "theory" with African American workers around, and they just laughed about it! If that came out of the mouth of a white co-worker, I suspect the reaction would have been very different. I'm guessing that's related to the somewhat recent history in this country and which skin colors were more of a threat. The Vietnamese fellow was so incredibly skinny and small, maybe he wasn't seen as a threat at a personal level either?

Anyway, I'm not sure why the man from Vietnam or the couple from Sri Lanka developed their sense of superiority. They watched news from around the world in their youth, so I'm guessing that the origins of their screwy ideas started from that somehow.

I would like to share this ebbie15644 Aug 2016 #1
Years and years of programming by media and even schools, some of it subtle and some not so subtle, brush Aug 2016 #7
Me too OneGrassRoot Sep 2016 #46
Me too mitch96 Sep 2016 #53
things are improving, but is there time? pretzel4gore Aug 2016 #2
we as human beings heaven05 Aug 2016 #5
Intra-tribal warfare should never be an excuse awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #3
true heaven05 Aug 2016 #4
Full disclosure awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #6
Well, if they were old, cut them a little slack Warpy Aug 2016 #8
The OP is your JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #14
As a "victim" of the things you mention, I agree that things HAVE jaysunb Aug 2016 #15
Understood Warpy Aug 2016 #18
I attended BU in the early 70's heaven05 Aug 2016 #40
Southie was truly horrible Warpy Aug 2016 #43
maybe we did cross paths heaven05 Aug 2016 #44
FYI, "persons of non-color" is probably more appropriate. MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #9
so a racist is a "person of non-color" heaven05 Aug 2016 #10
He's a disruptor JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #13
Just because I don't accept your labels of people doesn't make me a disruptor. MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #21
Nothing wrong with being called a "black person". brush Aug 2016 #27
++1000 heaven05 Aug 2016 #32
This was posted to you... sheshe2 Nov 2016 #60
I saw that heaven05 Nov 2016 #61
She is filled with awesome! JustAnotherGen Nov 2016 #62
"Person of non-color" is a label as well. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #28
Where did I write any of that? JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #29
you can reject until the cows come home heaven05 Aug 2016 #31
tee hee JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #45
If you can't be respectful Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #59
yeah, I see heaven05 Aug 2016 #42
... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #11
*sigh* JustAnotherGen Aug 2016 #12
What specifically leads you to allege "persons of non-color" is more appropriate? LanternWaste Aug 2016 #17
My coworker asked me to stop calling him white. He's right, it's an unecessary label. MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #20
Do you habitually reach conclusions based wholly on one subjective anecdote? LanternWaste Aug 2016 #23
So you want to call me "black." I get it. nt MadDAsHell Aug 2016 #25
Your may make as many conveniently inaccurate inference as you desire. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #26
No, it's not. But you can call me Ray... fleabiscuit Sep 2016 #48
Great post heaven05 lovemydog Aug 2016 #16
thank you heaven05 Aug 2016 #33
It is inbred just look at the picture and tell me if their kids are not now racists. vinny9698 Aug 2016 #19
ummmmm +1000 and heaven05 Aug 2016 #34
I've only been assaulted once in my life. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #35
They don't want to give up their place in line! They think they're going to be first MADem Aug 2016 #22
I'm sorry for your anxiety. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #24
in my experience with racist immigrants heaven05 Aug 2016 #36
I don't know about that. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #37
I think you were too harsh. I don't know how these two came across to you.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #30
it is possible what you feel about my response heaven05 Aug 2016 #38
I didn't say that your anger was misplaced. In fact, I believe I said that it made perfect sense.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #39
didn't mean for you to try to 'mindread' me heaven05 Aug 2016 #41
Saying that heaven05 was harsh, to me, is another form of promoting fragility/comfort Kind of Blue Sep 2016 #47
Very well said JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #49
Thanks, JAG. Kind of Blue Sep 2016 #55
thank you heaven05 Sep 2016 #56
Aww, man. It is my pleasure and honor to support your courage! Kind of Blue Sep 2016 #57
White people need to educate themselves, at least in my opinion ismnotwasm Sep 2016 #52
K&R ismnotwasm Sep 2016 #50
Recommended and well written. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #51
fear. fear of change. fear of other WhiteTara Sep 2016 #54
thank you so much for Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #58
What a foreshadowing post heaven05... Nt Quayblue Nov 2016 #63
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