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Mariana

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63. No shit Sherlock.

Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:51 PM

Nov 2018

So, what point were you trying to make? People's stances on these issues doesn't seem to have corresponded with their theism or lack of it. So, why do you think the theism of people on one side of an issue is relevant, and the theism of people on the other side isn't?

When it comes to the issue of slavery in particular, the Christian slaveholders could demonstrate that the Bible explicitly endorses the practice of slavery, and never specifically condemns it. It's even supported by the 10th Commandment, in which God commands the people not to covet their neighbors' slaves.

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Why Progressive Religious Populism Won't Work in the United States [View all] MineralMan Nov 2018 OP

Can still try ck4829 Nov 2018 #1

How derivative. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2

Not derivative. A direct response to your thread. MineralMan Nov 2018 #3

The substance is lacking. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #4

Balderdash and codswallop. MineralMan Nov 2018 #5

Exactly. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #6

Codswallop, ok shit, now I have to look that one up Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #10

I must admit to being unfamiliar with the 2 words. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #20

Balderdash is an oldie but a goodie but that other one...LOL Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #22

That sounds like a plan. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #23

Now that's a worthwhile goal. Lipinski is, perhaps, my least favorite DEM House member. MineralMan Nov 2018 #24

I worked for Newman's campaign. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #32

It didn't work. MineralMan Nov 2018 #34

As long as the person you get nominated doesnt have a poorer chance of beating the con. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #25

Lipinski lost to Newman in the suburbs, and won by name recognition in the city. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #33

Oh may, words saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #52

Fortunately, we have Google now. MineralMan Nov 2018 #55

LOL! And yet you never replied in your own thread MineralMan Nov 2018 #7

marylandblue did an excellent job of making my case. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #8

But you did not. MineralMan Nov 2018 #9

The author made my case. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #15

So, am I to take it that articles you excerpt in posts MineralMan Nov 2018 #16

Never assume. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

So, I've been right all along, then? MineralMan Nov 2018 #18

One of the constants of your posts is in evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #19

Well, I'm glad we cleared that up, MineralMan Nov 2018 #21

Horseshit Major Nikon Nov 2018 #40

From YOUR own history: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #45

Great job of not actually reading what you replied to Major Nikon Nov 2018 #46

Actual history. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #47

Actual horseshit as usual Major Nikon Nov 2018 #48

Yes, yes. Mariana Nov 2018 #54

And the abolitionists were theists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #60

Yes, yes, you already said that. Mariana Nov 2018 #61

Theists are humans. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #62

No shit Sherlock. Mariana Nov 2018 #63

People will do what they wish to do. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #64

"But progressive theists were involve in every progressive movement in the US," MineralMan Nov 2018 #65

Today, we know who it is Mariana Nov 2018 #68

That is most certainly true, to quote Martin Luther. MineralMan Nov 2018 #70

The point is progressive religious populism. Not progresive atheists. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #69

But you seemed to think the theism Mariana Nov 2018 #66

Right... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #67

Not sure what you mean by "won't work." wryter2000 Nov 2018 #11

I mean "won't work" as in "won't be effective in winning." MineralMan Nov 2018 #12

Well, we're pretty much ignored wryter2000 Nov 2018 #13

I attended services at an Episcopal church for a while, MineralMan Nov 2018 #14

Majority of voters are Christian qazplm135 Nov 2018 #26

Yes, exactly. Which is what Trump did. MineralMan Nov 2018 #27

And progressive Christians turned out for Hillary qazplm135 Nov 2018 #31

Still, the majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump. Mariana Nov 2018 #35

really? qazplm135 Nov 2018 #36

Yes, really. Mariana Nov 2018 #37

so Obama won Catholics twice qazplm135 Nov 2018 #38

The Roman Catholic Church is extremely misogynist. Mariana Nov 2018 #39

I'm pretty sure misogyny is not responsible for the qazplm135 Nov 2018 #41

Yes, most. Mariana Nov 2018 #43

so if it were 51-49 qazplm135 Nov 2018 #44

No, I don't define it as "most". Mariana Nov 2018 #50

You're being disingenuous qazplm135 Nov 2018 #57

The only reason the RCC numbers are different is because of Hispanics Major Nikon Nov 2018 #49

And they are quite enough to outnumber the rest. Mariana Nov 2018 #51

Even those aren't too far behind Major Nikon Nov 2018 #53

I think you are right. Mariana Nov 2018 #56

Not just theists, but they seem to be the worst Major Nikon Nov 2018 #59

Your statistical analysis is quite lacking Major Nikon Nov 2018 #42

The Catholic Church is not its hierarchy. Those in the pews Hassler Nov 2018 #28

And yet, there they are, sitting in the pews and filling the plates. Mariana Nov 2018 #29

Some of them are. Some of them on some issues. MineralMan Nov 2018 #30

Actually the RCC is in fact it's hierarchy. Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #58