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guillaumeb

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95. I would not and have never denied the role that religion played.

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Fri Dec 21, 2018, 07:15 PM

Dec 2018

And many of these leaders claimed a religious motivation for their wars of conquest.

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Imagine a world without faith or religion. [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP

Someone beat you to this... True Dough Dec 2018 #1

I wondered who would be the first. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2

John Lennon was a genius in his own right. MineralMan Dec 2018 #6

+1 LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #27

Yeah, probably best not to have gone there Major Nikon Dec 2018 #65

Yes. If your argument is refuted in a Wikipedia article, MineralMan Dec 2018 #71

Oh, the angry atheist meme Lordquinton Dec 2018 #72

No, Lennon was obviously an angry man guillaumeb Dec 2018 #79

What's the issue? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #81

I gave my opinion as to my favorite of the Beatles. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #82

And you brought up the angry atheist trope Lordquinton Dec 2018 #83

No, you claimed to find it. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #85

You repeated it even Lordquinton Dec 2018 #87

Ok, claim a victory. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #89

Gladly Lordquinton Dec 2018 #91

Claim another victory. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #92

What tactic is that? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #93

Can you imagine it, Guy? MineralMan Dec 2018 #3

I asked the questions of the readers. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #17

It's simple etiquette to answer your own thought questions marylandblue Dec 2018 #24

This is a common pattern here. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43

No, you don't understand this one at all, since I did reply marylandblue Dec 2018 #45

You replied with non-answers. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #48

You didn't like my answer. I understand. marylandblue Dec 2018 #51

No faith or religion? thbobby Dec 2018 #4

you don't think slavery qazplm135 Dec 2018 #33

Since crusades and pogroms are religious in nature, I think we would not have those particular forms marylandblue Dec 2018 #35

they are religious in nature in the sense that qazplm135 Dec 2018 #36

Whataboutism and illogic. marylandblue Dec 2018 #37

Speaking of Stalin: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #44

wait a minute qazplm135 Dec 2018 #47

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #50

yeah no qazplm135 Dec 2018 #52

"...first of all Judaism is BOTH a religion AND an ethnicity." Adsos Letter Dec 2018 #53

Agree except qazplm135 Dec 2018 #70

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #55

Working out well for me. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #5

I asked some questions. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18

I imagine a world without flamebait. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #7

Not here, though. MineralMan Dec 2018 #8

Like this derivative one? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #15

You reap what you sow, Billy. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #73

So what you're getting at here is that religion doesn't make us any better. trotsky Dec 2018 #9

That might have been what you read into it. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #16

China has over 4 times the population of the US with a similar land mass Major Nikon Dec 2018 #67

#Whataboutism n/t trotsky Dec 2018 #74

I asked some questions. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19

Probably because nobody felt like taking the obvious bait LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #57

Bingo. trotsky Dec 2018 #76

If you think it is, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #80

Because everyone can see you posted flamebait. trotsky Dec 2018 #75

The world would be better in multiple aspects: DetlefK Dec 2018 #10

Pure imagination. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #20

HAHAHAHAHA! You are changing the topic mid-conversation! HAHAHA! DetlefK Dec 2018 #22

So we would have to press the reset button? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #78

re DetlefK Dec 2018 #84

I disagree. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #86

I said "less groupthink", not "no groupthink". DetlefK Dec 2018 #88

But it is speculation that is refuted by actual history. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #90

In actual history... DetlefK Dec 2018 #94

I would not and have never denied the role that religion played. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #95

In that case, yes. marylandblue Dec 2018 #25

Kinda funny how you must point to the most totalitarian examples as your proof of concept Major Nikon Dec 2018 #68

humanity's most oppressive hate group gone? oh no, then it's back to plain old msongs Dec 2018 #11

Where have you gone, Guy? MineralMan Dec 2018 #12

Hey hey hey Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #13

Oooo... MineralMan Dec 2018 #14

I posed some questions. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #21

Waitwaitwait. You just ridiculed me for speculating because you didn't like my answers. DetlefK Dec 2018 #23

Yes, but I answered another post by another person. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #38

Irrelevant. You have two contradicting opinions when talking to two different people. DetlefK Dec 2018 #61

If that's not the epitome of gaslighting Lordquinton Dec 2018 #60

There would be wars Soxfan58 Dec 2018 #26

Indeed. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #39

A world that never had religion would have people very different from ourselves marylandblue Dec 2018 #28

the irrational, the impulsive, matters of emotion and instinct qazplm135 Dec 2018 #34

Imagine the world 20 million years ago - Something like that ck4829 Dec 2018 #29

Very well said. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #40

To the contrary: It disconnects us and it imposes an horizon on us. DetlefK Dec 2018 #62

Considering that religion is Pandoris Dec 2018 #30

Welcome to DU, and this conversation. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41

Thank you, and sure I would. Pandoris Dec 2018 #46

True. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #49

Religion and faith are not bad and are good. However many in today's churches lancelyons Dec 2018 #31

Do you really think this is a new thing? nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #32

Desire for money and power are both human behaviors. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #42

When was Christianity not that way? Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #69

OK Tikki Dec 2018 #54

one less thing to deal with in the morning at work. juxtaposed Dec 2018 #56

Lots of charlatans would have to get real jobs. malchickiwick Dec 2018 #58

The thought crossed my mind that if we consider other species, we might find an example. gtar100 Dec 2018 #59

I agree. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #77

I can't say "Jesus F***ing Christ" without religion Bretton Garcia Dec 2018 #63

Christianity mandated the destruction of the earth Bretton Garcia Dec 2018 #64

I suppose if one is prone to dichotomy they would be satisfied that all the answers are no Major Nikon Dec 2018 #66

A world without religion would be... old as dirt Dec 2021 #96

Agreed. eom guillaumeb Dec 2021 #97

The two videos above... old as dirt Dec 2021 #98