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MineralMan

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104. I'm an evidence guy. No evidence; no belief.

Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:39 AM

Jan 2019

There is zero evidence of anyone contemporaneous with Yeshua, or whatever his name was, writing anything about Emmanuel or Jesus, or whatever name that person went by back in the day.

Zero. So, given the amount of time and effort to produce some original writings by actual observers, I'm calling it as I see it.

The whole thing is the most successful long con game in human history, I think. I mean, look at the wealth and power the Roman Catholic Church has maintained for all this time. That's success! It may be winding down, finally, due to the massive corruption and abuse connected with that organization, but it's had a long, long successful run.

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Do any religions have bad teachings in their holy book(s) and/or history? [View all] trotsky Jan 2019 OP

Does deGrasse Tyson have behavioral issues? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #1

Please stay on topic. n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #4

Which advice I have given you many times. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #19

And that's why your advice is ignored. trotsky Jan 2019 #21

Your pattern here predatesmy being here. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #22

So you're saying you have no control over your own behavior. trotsky Jan 2019 #24

More misunderstanding? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #37

The point is, you are saying that you engage in your current misbehavior... trotsky Jan 2019 #41

More misunderstanding. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #42

Correction: my history with *proven disruptors*. trotsky Jan 2019 #44

Ah, the "proven disruptors" response. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #45

That's your claim. trotsky Jan 2019 #47

Yes, a claim supported by the record. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #48

A record based on your claim alone. trotsky Jan 2019 #49

No, an easily proven claim that requires only that one read what you wrote, and write. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #50

Easily proven, eh? trotsky Jan 2019 #51

Previously done. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #52

Has never been done. trotsky Jan 2019 #55

You should really reexamine the posts of those that got banned. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #53

I was called a troll today. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #54

That is false. trotsky Jan 2019 #56

Ridiculous atempt at explaining. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #57

Not at all. The word was "Christian," not "theist." MineralMan Jan 2019 #58

Another ridiculous attempt at explaining. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #60

I'll take that as a "no." MineralMan Jan 2019 #61

Take this as an example of how some do not really want dialogue in the Religion Group. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #63

Yes, it is a perfect example of how you do not really want dialog here. trotsky Jan 2019 #65

This belongs in the unintentional irony group. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #67

You are no Christian, guillaumeb. trotsky Jan 2019 #69

LOL! MineralMan Jan 2019 #73

You have judged me, and you are punishing me with "an eye for an eye." trotsky Jan 2019 #64

This belongs in the humor group. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #66

You are no Christian, guillaumeb. trotsky Jan 2019 #68

I already forgave this one. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #70

You are no Christian, guillaumeb. trotsky Jan 2019 #71

Leave me out of your arguments, please, Guy. MineralMan Jan 2019 #90

He said himself he isn't a Christian Major Nikon Jan 2019 #74

He's a "motte-and-bailey" Christian. trotsky Jan 2019 #75

If he actually understood what deists are, he'd probably hate them more than atheists Major Nikon Jan 2019 #80

LMAO you're probably right. trotsky Jan 2019 #81

Which is why trying to have a discussion with Gil is like trying to have a discussion with a MAGAt Major Nikon Jan 2019 #83

Oh that is perfect. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #116

Yeah, came across it a little while ago. trotsky Jan 2019 #121

When you defined yourself as a deist, did that make you a definer of who isn't a theist? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #72

Remember, the rules he screamingly demands for others don't apply to him. trotsky Jan 2019 #122

That just suggests he is a theist Major Nikon Jan 2019 #123

Or perhaps he convinced himself? trotsky Jan 2019 #124

In this case it looks like both Major Nikon Jan 2019 #125

I will also add that this "pattern" to which you refer... trotsky Jan 2019 #25

Actually that response says all you really need to know Major Nikon Jan 2019 #23

Indeed. trotsky Jan 2019 #26

Does the Bible encourage whataboutism? MineralMan Jan 2019 #6

Just another attempt to derail discussion that someone doesn't want. trotsky Jan 2019 #7

Indeed. Apparently he thinks that MineralMan Jan 2019 #10

More insults from you. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #20

Just observations. MineralMan Jan 2019 #29

No, just insults. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #38

As I said before, you'll know if I ever actually insult you. MineralMan Jan 2019 #59

A pattern. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #62

There you go again trying to run this forum. trotsky Jan 2019 #91

A lot of straw was wasted in building this post. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #92

Bullshit. trotsky Jan 2019 #93

Thus speaks the definer. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #95

So you're claiming that Jesus DIDN'T say those things? trotsky Jan 2019 #98

I don't know edhopper Jan 2019 #31

What does that have to do with the question asked in the OP? MineralMan Jan 2019 #32

What are "ooes"? eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #39

Typos. Think for a second. MineralMan Jan 2019 #96

Following your lead, sir. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #97

If you want to do a proper level of whataboutism, you should ask if physics has any bad teachings. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #40

I'm going with all false Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #76

Your credibility suffers again when you don't stay on topic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #79

West Wing Bible Quote Xipe Totec Jan 2019 #2

Great example. trotsky Jan 2019 #5

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! elleng Jan 2019 #8

I love that...BUT Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #15

What a wonderful clip! This is what we all need to be able to do. MineralMan Jan 2019 #33

That biblical "cure" for leprosy seems pretty legit... Moostache Jan 2019 #3

The Bible endorses slavery TlalocW Jan 2019 #9

Yes, indeed Farmer-Rick Jan 2019 #30

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" (Exod 22:18) mart48 Jan 2019 #11

The teaching of Jesus about disease mart48 Jan 2019 #12

Another important point, there are no severability clauses... NeoGreen Jan 2019 #13

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Runningdawg Jan 2019 #14

That is quite the disturbing passage. n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #17

An excellent example! Those verses tell incels how they can get a wife. MineralMan Jan 2019 #34

Have you read Leviticus? bitterross Jan 2019 #16

Well, to be honest... trotsky Jan 2019 #18

If you make fun of a bald guy, you should be torn to pieces: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #27

I'm sure we must be taking that out of context. trotsky Jan 2019 #35

But, see, it was GOD who sent those bears in to MineralMan Jan 2019 #43

Every religion has a dark side with their intolerance for other religions. democratisphere Jan 2019 #28

Yup. trotsky Jan 2019 #36

God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"... FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #46

"Man you must be putting me on..." Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #78

Indeed! FiveGoodMen Jan 2019 #94

Even weirder: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #112

I'm sure there's some metaphor thingie involved here O.o? uriel1972 Jan 2019 #117

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #77

Jesus of Nazareth in Luke 19:27 (KJV) malchickiwick Jan 2019 #82

"Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection." LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #84

That was Paul who supposedly wrote that. He was a constipated misogynist MineralMan Jan 2019 #85

Yep; as I've said before, I consider Saul to be a first-century Joseph Smith or L. Ron Hubbard /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #86

Much of western Christianity is really Paulism. MineralMan Jan 2019 #87

It's amazing how few Christians are aware that most of their faith comes from one who never met LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #88

Nobody involved with writing the New Testament ever met Jesus. MineralMan Jan 2019 #89

Ironically they wrote down Jesus would come back within a generation Major Nikon Jan 2019 #100

Yes. Maybe he did, looked around, saw that people hadn't changed, and MineralMan Jan 2019 #102

Zombie Jesus is just a metaphor Major Nikon Jan 2019 #106

Same difference, really. MineralMan Jan 2019 #107

At least half of US Christians believe in young earth creationism Major Nikon Jan 2019 #108

While I tend to agree, I can't say that with absolute certainty. It's possible some of the original LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #103

I'm an evidence guy. No evidence; no belief. MineralMan Jan 2019 #104

Agreed, but absence of evidence alone is not evidence of absence, and it is possible, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #105

Not exactly Major Nikon Jan 2019 #99

The Bible portrays Christianity as getting ugly very early on. Mariana Jan 2019 #109

There's a song about that: MineralMan Jan 2019 #110

Have you had a look at the Bible? n/t cyclonefence Jan 2019 #101

What an odd question... MineralMan Jan 2019 #111

This thread is apparently an extended conversation cyclonefence Jan 2019 #113

You're right. That's a fairly common thing here. MineralMan Jan 2019 #114

I didn't even "drop in" cyclonefence Jan 2019 #115

Very nice observations about etiquette books. MineralMan Jan 2019 #118

Where did you answer the question asked? Mariana Jan 2019 #119

oh for god's sake cyclonefence Jan 2019 #120

Read Under the Banner of Heaven. About Mormonism, a murder, and its long history. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2019 #126