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MineralMan

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20. That's hardly surprising.

Mon Jan 14, 2019, 02:41 PM

Jan 2019

China is all about preserving its cultural and political system. So, anyone who is not in line with that gets watched and restricted if they go past some point.

Apparently, it is the independent Christian "house" churches that are under scrutiny and restrictions - the ones that refuse to become "official" Christian churches. That's what I'm getting from Guy's many posts on the topic.

China has a very restrictive political system. None of us would do well in it, I'm quite certain. Certainly I would feel very restricted and limited by such a system.

However, using China's restrictions on religion as a whataboutism when anyone brings up some restriction imposed BY a religious group somewhere else is ridiculous. There is no equivalency, nor any connection.

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In China, they're closing churches, jailing pastors - and even rewriting scripture [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP

I think you should send the Chinese government a stern letter, Guy! MineralMan Jan 2019 #1

Do you prefer to ignore this example of repression and violence? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #2

Like most people, I pick my battles. MineralMan Jan 2019 #5

Funny thing,China is run by Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #9

I actually know very little about how China is run. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10

Same for me. Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #11

Well, Guy asked me what my business colleague thought about this. MineralMan Jan 2019 #13

As per the Teacher Kid, Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #16

That's hardly surprising. MineralMan Jan 2019 #20

The Jesus Freeks would really go bonkers Wellstone ruled Jan 2019 #21

If that is what you are "getting", you should read them again. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #22

Government oppression of religion is no better than the state using religion for oppression. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #3

We agree. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #4

You're absolutely right, Gil. Mariana Jan 2019 #6

Sanctions are one possibility. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #24

How would said sanctions be enforced, Gil? nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #49

By political action. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #55

How would that work, exactly? nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #61

That would make a great GD discussion. Start one. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #62

So much for dialogue. nt. Mariana Jan 2019 #63

You planted a seed. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #66

8th thread this month on the exact same subject Major Nikon Jan 2019 #7

Versus the countless threads dealing with cases of abuse? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #23

I suppose if someone posted about the exact same child raping priest 8 times in one month Major Nikon Jan 2019 #28

Thus speaks the definer. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #30

Thus speaks the name caller Major Nikon Jan 2019 #31

The rewriting of scripture happens all the time, AJT Jan 2019 #8

What's one more translation and edit, anyhow, right? MineralMan Jan 2019 #12

You are *supposed* to engage in the requisite DU virtue signaling, MM .. we have standards here (nt) mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #14

I believe I am well-known for not following usual standards here. MineralMan Jan 2019 #15

You are known for that & I, for one, like that about you. Keep on keeping on! (nt) mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #17

I am certain that your many anecdotal posts have some meaning as well. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32

Your sarcasm is noted, Guy. MineralMan Jan 2019 #37

I am searching, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #42

What is their motivation? trotsky Jan 2019 #18

What is their motivation? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #25

But atheism isn't their motivation. trotsky Jan 2019 #26

And you speak for all atheists? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #27

I speak for the definition of atheism. trotsky Jan 2019 #34

No, you made a definitive statement. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #38

I sure did. trotsky Jan 2019 #39

OK. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #43

We've been over this countless times. trotsky Jan 2019 #50

Now I understand how you interpret my posts. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #56

You attack and spread hate and misinformation. trotsky Jan 2019 #65

It proves ideology motivates behavior. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #33

It proves that people behave as they wish, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #36

You admit religion is utterly worthless, then. trotsky Jan 2019 #40

You certainly can read many things into a response. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #44

Here's your response: trotsky Jan 2019 #47

Again, you read far too much into it. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #54

I have read nothing else into it. trotsky Jan 2019 #64

Refer to my previous post. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #67

Same old tired responses from you. trotsky Jan 2019 #68

Misframing, and ad hominem. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #69

Eye for an eye and judging. trotsky Jan 2019 #70

But people have free will. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #45

Right. n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #48

gee xtians have been rewriting their ownn scripture for 2000 years nt msongs Jan 2019 #19

Is there a point to this? eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #29

you mentioned it in your post headline. nt msongs Jan 2019 #52

One type is done by the group. The other is forced conversion. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #58

Wow edhopper Jan 2019 #35

Whataboutism? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #41

it was meant as a snarky joke edhopper Jan 2019 #46

My failure. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #53

No edhopper Jan 2019 #59

That makes it better. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #60

If King James can do it, why can't the Central Committee? n/t TygrBright Jan 2019 #51

What is good for one is good for all? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #57