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guillaumeb

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10. What?

Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:09 PM

Jan 2019

If you have read the post, you saw the 3 accusations.

And the clips that refute the accusations.

And this is what some few, some very few, consider to be dialogue and debate.

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Child rape apologia. A brutal accusation to make. [View all] guillaumeb Jan 2019 OP

1) Post flamebait. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #1

3 unfounded accusations. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #2

I have asked you the same question at least 2 dozen times. So far, no answer. trotsky Jan 2019 #3

Expected evasion. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #6

Thank you for admitting your lack of answering is expected evasion. trotsky Jan 2019 #12

Oh, ok. Let me found them. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #4

What? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #10

You feel the things you post here are in the interest of dialogue and debate? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #21

And you accuse me. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #25

Your point being? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #30

What the hell do YOU consider to be dialog and debate, gil? trotsky Jan 2019 #22

Knowing this DU'er as I do, flamebaiting and crying are NOT on the agenda. niyad Jan 2019 #5

He supports exemptions for clergy from mandatory reporting laws. trotsky Jan 2019 #7

Laughable. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #11

Yes indeed, your evasion is. trotsky Jan 2019 #16

Have you read #14 yet? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #17

Read and answered. trotsky Jan 2019 #19

And there is this reply, from the original thread, that you ignored or missed: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #14

You are carefully trying to skirt the question. trotsky Jan 2019 #18

Allow me to make this very clear: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #23

YOU ARE UNSURE???? trotsky Jan 2019 #26

Attorneys are not subject to the requirement. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32

Whataboutism. trotsky Jan 2019 #35

Avoid reality if you wish. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #38

Avoid reality? I just explained reality to you. trotsky Jan 2019 #40

No, you explained what your preferred narrative is. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #42

Nope, reality. And no one is because no one gives a shit about your diversion. trotsky Jan 2019 #50

"everyone should be a mandated reporter" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #106

Another silly accusation. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #126

Amazing, isn't it? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #80

WHAT SAY YOU ABOUT THE THREE ACCUSATIONS? trotsky Jan 2019 #100

Glad you asked Major Nikon Jan 2019 #105

I don't think you understand, you see. trotsky Jan 2019 #108

The headline should have given it away Major Nikon Jan 2019 #109

As he's admitted, he was raised Catholic. trotsky Jan 2019 #110

You start to notice a pattern of behavior Major Nikon Jan 2019 #113

The article headline is misleading marylandblue Jan 2019 #111

Not sure how you get there Major Nikon Jan 2019 #112

Because it's true it won't "solve" the crisis marylandblue Jan 2019 #114

Which makes it obvious strawman rhetoric Major Nikon Jan 2019 #115

Yes, well, I am just talking about the headline marylandblue Jan 2019 #116

As am I when I say it's obvious strawman rhetoric Major Nikon Jan 2019 #117

Obvious to you. Not obvious to me until I read the article. marylandblue Jan 2019 #118

Don't forget Lordquinton Jan 2019 #121

LOL oh yeah, that one too. trotsky Jan 2019 #123

It's true, it's damn true Lordquinton Jan 2019 #129

The RCC is the one supporting the position that makes it easier to rape children Major Nikon Jan 2019 #79

Your insight is noted. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #84

Explain again how you are unsure that child rape prevention laws are a good idea Major Nikon Jan 2019 #86

Sorry to avoid your diversion. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #87

... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #89

Then explain the flamebaiting and crying. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #8

nice try. niyad Jan 2019 #9

Do you think clergy should be exempted from mandatory reporting laws... trotsky Jan 2019 #13

See #14 guillaumeb Jan 2019 #15

Read and responded to. trotsky Jan 2019 #20

Er what? They are sop. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #73

You forgot to emphasize this phrase: MineralMan Jan 2019 #24

Plus, it is 2019. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #27

No, you misunderstand the term "apologia for child rape". guillaumeb Jan 2019 #28

Oh dear. No, Guy, I do not misunderstand the term. MineralMan Jan 2019 #31

You might clearly feel that you are correct here, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #34

You posted the article, with your approbation. MineralMan Jan 2019 #37

You are incorrect in your assertion that this is apologetics. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #43

Apologetics trotsky Jan 2019 #58

No, it is not. Not even close to correct. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #59

You are free to disagree. trotsky Jan 2019 #61

And you are free to say that black is white, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #62

"solution may not be the solution" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #95

You don't get to define things for others. trotsky Jan 2019 #101

You demand the right to define black as white, and up as down. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #124

Nope, you're trying to do the defining here. trotsky Jan 2019 #125

And you are arguing that you are "the definer". guillaumeb Jan 2019 #127

You have convinced yourself. trotsky Jan 2019 #128

Thank you for agreeing with me, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #64

Oh dear. trotsky Jan 2019 #102

I thought he was the "decider" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #96

Its untrue because you misquoted me Major Nikon Jan 2019 #98

BWAH HA HA HA trotsky Jan 2019 #103

Laughable. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #122

The only qualification I made was your fuckup trying to quote me Major Nikon Jan 2019 #130

This would earn you a failed grade in any level debate class. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #131

You just said "I stuck my dick in a light socket". Those are your words. Major Nikon Jan 2019 #132

Which is about on the level of your 3 accusations. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #133

So why did you repeatedly apologize for posting RCC rape apologia? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #134

Even worse. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #135

Why would I take credit for your idea? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #136

Which socket type? MineralMan Jan 2019 #137

No offense but those are bulbs not sockets Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #138

Good point, but before one can specify the socket, one must know what bulb MineralMan Jan 2019 #139

Did you just assume gender? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #140

I believe there was a reference to a "dick" in a light socket above. MineralMan Jan 2019 #142

Those were his words, not mine Major Nikon Jan 2019 #143

Please forgive me if I have erred in the attribution of MineralMan Jan 2019 #145

Well I don't suggest any one try it, but if you were interested marylandblue Jan 2019 #149

It's a metaphor, see. MineralMan Jan 2019 #150

Well some men have been sticking their dicks in strange objects for thousands of years marylandblue Jan 2019 #151

And Billly-Bob said, "Let there be light," and flipped the switch. MineralMan Jan 2019 #152

Oh so you are a bulb determines the socket sort of person? Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #141

I reject your criticism on the following grounds: MineralMan Jan 2019 #144

Sometimes when you descend down the Rabbit of Caerbannog's hole... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #146

One would need a detailed map, I'd think, MineralMan Jan 2019 #147

GPS is useless underground Major Nikon Jan 2019 #148

Gil has punted. trotsky Jan 2019 #29

He's of two minds about it, then. MineralMan Jan 2019 #33

More ad hominem and vague accusations? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #36

Just analysis, Guy. Analysis. MineralMan Jan 2019 #39

You seem unsure about that term as well. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #44

.. MineralMan Jan 2019 #47

Yes, it is good to retreat from the unsupportable claim. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #52

... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #94

So what kind of grade did you earn for calling multiple people here "intolerant", Gil? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #99

Well, at this moment there are 2 DUers who have recommended his thread. trotsky Jan 2019 #104

... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #41

3 train wrecks. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #45

I'm sure you have faith in that Major Nikon Jan 2019 #48

And there is more: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #46

Yeah, whatabout that? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #49

What about your 3 claims? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #53

Still think it's a better idea to parrot out the RCC's side of this story Major Nikon Jan 2019 #65

SO the 3 claims are unsupportable? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #67

If you want to pretend I'm agreeing with the RCCs child rape apologia have at it Major Nikon Jan 2019 #69

This is the Religion Group, Guy. MineralMan Jan 2019 #51

Theists are humans. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #55

Nope. The Religion Group is for discussions of MineralMan Jan 2019 #56

Focus on the term "child rape apologia". guillaumeb Jan 2019 #57

No. I'm focusing on religion and child sexual abuse. MineralMan Jan 2019 #60

Your focus is skewed. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #63

Sez You... MineralMan Jan 2019 #74

Your something is showing. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #83

LOL! MineralMan Jan 2019 #75

Yeah, some are unsure about whether or not child rape prevention laws are a good idea Major Nikon Jan 2019 #81

Focus. or continue with your meme. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #85

And you will lose and then welch on the bet Major Nikon Jan 2019 #88

Laughable. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #90

You are the only one laughing over child rape apologia Major Nikon Jan 2019 #91

Even more laughable. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #92

Sounds like you are the "decider" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #93

#Whataboutism n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #54

The fact that you started this thread Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #66

The thread concerns unsupported accusations. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #68

I understand that is what you thought it was about. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #70

So you admit that there is no defense for the claims. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #71

No I admit that you made yet another huge blunder. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #72

Gil's latest canned reply is to pretend you agreed with him Major Nikon Jan 2019 #77

So confusing... MineralMan Jan 2019 #78

I thought as much. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #82

The more you kick this disaster of a thread Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #97

Not THAT interesting, really. MineralMan Jan 2019 #76

The Pope could change the Cannon laws regarding confessor confidentiality. njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #107

He said he's unsure whether the RCC should report child rape to the cops Major Nikon Jan 2019 #119

That priest probably confessed to another priest he's a child raper. njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #120

He could, that is true. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #153

It would if they're were in jail njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #154

Jail is one solution. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #155

Mandatory reporting laws decrease and prevent child sexual predation. njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #156

Agreed, for repeat offenders. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #158

Not even one? Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #157

Your hypothesis. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #159

No Gil, it's the "hypothesis" of numerous child welfare organizations Major Nikon Jan 2019 #163

Link to it. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #164

Already did, Gil. You know the one you dismissed within moments of it being posted Major Nikon Jan 2019 #168

And: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #166

Why are you even posting something that has absolutely nothing to do with mandatory reporting, Gil? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #167

Read the highlighted parts. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #169

The article has nothing to do with mandatory reporting, Gil. Nada. Zip. Not even mentioned. Major Nikon Jan 2019 #172

Pathetic, isn't it? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #160

Sure, Gil. What better "author" than a RCC priest to tell us what won't prevent child rape Major Nikon Jan 2019 #161

Delusion is thinking that predators will simply stop. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #162

No Gil, delusion is thinking the RCC is where you go to get solutions for child rape prevention Major Nikon Jan 2019 #165

Nobody said predators will "simply stop" and that is not the purpose of mandatory reporting marylandblue Jan 2019 #170

I have no personal objection. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #171

You said you were "unsure" if the RCC should be required to tell the authorities about child rape Major Nikon Jan 2019 #173

And that was based on the information that the author wrote as to the efficacy guillaumeb Jan 2019 #174

The author is an RCC priest who is saying secular laws on child rape shouldn't apply to the RCC Major Nikon Jan 2019 #175

Your framing is incorrect. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #176

Oh bullshit, Gil. The author is a RCC priest. Your own source says so. Major Nikon Jan 2019 #183

Simple, yes. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #186

Yeah, kinda funny how you claim there's a contradiction which you refuse to explain Major Nikon Jan 2019 #189

And here is an excerpt that proves my point: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #177

The priest wants an exception for confession, and people here object to that marylandblue Jan 2019 #180

The often repeated claim: guillaumeb Jan 2019 #181

Well, that is what that priest wants marylandblue Jan 2019 #184

The claim is "child rape apologia". guillaumeb Jan 2019 #187

instead of focusing on the definition of "child rape apologia" marylandblue Jan 2019 #190

The accusation is incorrect. And words do matter. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #191

Substance matters more than words, marylandblue Jan 2019 #192

The RCC thinks the RCC should be exempt from laws that protect children from child rape Major Nikon Jan 2019 #182

And you insist on demonstrating your agenda. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #185

So you are now the decider on what I do or don't understand? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #188

And away we go. tymorial Jan 2019 #178

Thus it has ever been. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #179