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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: If You FEEL IN YOUR GUT that Something STRANGE Occurred on Election Day....You may BE CORRECT! [View all]Mc Mike
(9,216 posts)75. TPM showed a brexit style flip in candidate victory odds, 9:30 pm, election night.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/brexit--2
Now the media is trying to explain the surpise flip of 5 states, all in the orange bald nazi's favor. So they're giving us extremely unlikely particulars to make it seem "sensible". Over a quarter of Hispanics voted for him. Over half of White Women voted for him, 13 % of Black Men voted for him, etc. Statements of ''fact'' that are palpably bull shit.
The electronic vote counting systems are so insecure, at so many points in the process, that it is sickening.
Ken Blackwell diverted Ohio's statewide vote tallying to a private company, owned by repugs, in Chattanooga TN, on election night in '04. The company (SMARTech / Gov Tech) hosted private repug websites, (including the private e-mail servers that 'lost' millions of Congressionally subpoenaed bush admin e-mails between Rove and Gonzales, pertaining to the scandalous firings of 9 US Attorney Generals.) As a result of Blackwell and SMARTech's work, Ohio decided the election in favor of li'l bush, so he 'won' the national election in '04. Blackwell's now working for the dRumpf transition team.
That's at the state level, where all different counties' tabulated results are fed in, to get overall state results. One step lower, all the different district/precinct results for each county are fed into a central county tabulator. The tabulator has code that can be manipulated remotely, or using a thumb drive, or using the tabulator's own terminal. A convicted computer hacker felon named Jeff Dean wrote the code used by 99% of the county central tabulators in the country, used by 4 different voting machine vendors. Jeff Dean is a convicted felon, whose convictions stem from computer hacking into banks. He was an employee of Egil Bud Krogh, the convicted repug party Nixon admin watergate felon who ran the "plumbers unit". Krogh was an Erlichman aide who employed repug operatives G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard Hunt to manipulate the '72 elections. The candidate who "won" in 2016 employed repug party Watergate criminals Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.
One step lower, at the district/precinct level, there's a possibility the vote counts can be flipped and switched before they go off to the county's central tabulator. I was a poll worker for the county, the majority inspector of elections, in the district next to mine in the 19th Ward, for 5 elections over a 3 year period. During the '07 General Election, the County's elections manager ordered computer techs to go to the different precincts and use the ES&S Ivotronic voting machines' Master PEB Cartridges to "check the voltage", 2 hours before the polls closed. Both District 3 and District 4's machines were accessed by the county tech. (I still have his business card.) Both districts have a strong Dem voter registration advantage, and both usually record a strong preference for the Dem candidate during every election. But in the '07 final election, both recorded a preference for the repug candidate for Mayor.
After seeing this happen, when I was trained for the '08 General (Final) Election, I asked the County elections expert trainer if we should allow county techs to access our machines, using the Master PEB Cart, near the end of the voting day, if the machines are obviously not having any problems. Boy, did they get unhappy and hot in a hurry.
It was a simple question, I didn't ask it in a snotty manner. But they first tried to say maybe I wasn't even allowed to work inside the polls -- since I was a 19th Ward Dem committeeman, there might be some sort of vague unspecified conflict. I said "Oh, all right" and started to leave the training site, and they said "No, no, we want you to work." (The job is long hours, sucky pay, and they can't get enough personnel to work their polls.) Then when I got home, (it was a Saturday) I had an extremely irate message on my phone from one of the wiseguys who control county elections. I called him back, and he was real mad and agro, asking me several stupid and aggressive questions when all he had to do was tell me my services weren't needed to work the polls. Then on election day, my district had a ton of unusual problems, though the 4 previous elections I worked had gone smoothly. So I dealt with the problems, and wrote all the irregularities down. O'Brien and Flynn from the county didn't send anyone to check our voltage. My speculation is that there was a backdoor to the Ivotronics program, where Check Voltage = Flip Tallied Votes, switch candidate preference totals. And I'd like to point out that the current 2016 'victor' definitely received the wiseguy vote.
The bottom step, in terms of possible vote count security flaws, is the actions of the actual poll workers. In the past, audits of machine results have shown manipulation, where there was a long run of voters who voted for repugs, then several who voted for dems, then another long run of voters who voted for repugs. In this 2016 final election, I worked for Election Protection, at Ward 30, District 1 and 4, a few miles away from my home District. I stayed after the polls finished up and posted their final results tapes outside the polling place, around 8:15 pm. They recorded 60% turn out. Then I went to my voting precinct to see my poll's results. Ward 19, District 28's personnel were still busy inside the polling place, there wasn't a crowd of voters inside, as I could see through the slit windows. I didn't have a county poll watcher's certificate, so couldn't go inside the locked polling location. I waited outside for a half hour, then gave up and went home. I wound up going to see the posted results at 5:30 am the next day, then looking them up on the county website.
My precinct recorded an 81% turn out, 10 to 20 % higher than the 19,4 and 19,3 polls I worked in the past, the 19,1 poll that I voted in for 2 decades, and the 30,1 and 4 districts I just got done 'protecting'. And 31% of the votes in this Dem stronghold poll were for dRUmpf, while only 14 and 19 % backed him in the 2 Ward 30 districts I worked at.
So, I don't allege any felony election fraud was committed by the poll workers in 19, 28. But it would be easy enough to verify, by looking at audited machine results, the district register, the signed voter cards. I'm on the record, with the Ward 30 Chair, with the 30, 1 Dem committeman, with the former Ward 19 chair I served under (2 of whose relatives served in statewide offices), with the 5 election protection lawyers and observers I interacted with, with 3 of my Dem party-backing union officials, with the 2 official poll watchers from the Democratic Party. Every statement I made can be easily verified, all those local Dem honchos know who and what I am and what I did. I'm willing to swear an oath and sign a deposition about all the particulars I related above.
The issue is this: There are a lot of dem bigshots and honchos around this site. BUT, there is a disconnect between the 'important' dems who post here, and the dems who are 'important' in the physical area I live in, in Western PA, which is in one of the states that improbably 'flipped'. As usual, after I put in work on an election, all the area's bigshots immediately stop communicating with me, until they need me again in 2 or 4 years. The official campaigns fold up and disappear, the Dem-backing labor elements go back to not communicating with rank and filers like me, the Dem party local officials go back to whatever they're usually doing, the massive Election Protection coalition's groups of activist lawyers, social justice orgs, civil rights orgs, labor orgs go back to their standard radio silence. There will be no after-action report issued, there will be no post election meeting to offer a post mortem analysis.
It sure would be easy to verify that everything was above board in my Dem stronghold voting district. But while I have the will, I lack the authority, credentials, portfolio, or support to do so.
Of course, I'm willing to entertain any suggestions from this site's Dem bigshots.
Now the media is trying to explain the surpise flip of 5 states, all in the orange bald nazi's favor. So they're giving us extremely unlikely particulars to make it seem "sensible". Over a quarter of Hispanics voted for him. Over half of White Women voted for him, 13 % of Black Men voted for him, etc. Statements of ''fact'' that are palpably bull shit.
The electronic vote counting systems are so insecure, at so many points in the process, that it is sickening.
Ken Blackwell diverted Ohio's statewide vote tallying to a private company, owned by repugs, in Chattanooga TN, on election night in '04. The company (SMARTech / Gov Tech) hosted private repug websites, (including the private e-mail servers that 'lost' millions of Congressionally subpoenaed bush admin e-mails between Rove and Gonzales, pertaining to the scandalous firings of 9 US Attorney Generals.) As a result of Blackwell and SMARTech's work, Ohio decided the election in favor of li'l bush, so he 'won' the national election in '04. Blackwell's now working for the dRumpf transition team.
That's at the state level, where all different counties' tabulated results are fed in, to get overall state results. One step lower, all the different district/precinct results for each county are fed into a central county tabulator. The tabulator has code that can be manipulated remotely, or using a thumb drive, or using the tabulator's own terminal. A convicted computer hacker felon named Jeff Dean wrote the code used by 99% of the county central tabulators in the country, used by 4 different voting machine vendors. Jeff Dean is a convicted felon, whose convictions stem from computer hacking into banks. He was an employee of Egil Bud Krogh, the convicted repug party Nixon admin watergate felon who ran the "plumbers unit". Krogh was an Erlichman aide who employed repug operatives G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard Hunt to manipulate the '72 elections. The candidate who "won" in 2016 employed repug party Watergate criminals Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.
One step lower, at the district/precinct level, there's a possibility the vote counts can be flipped and switched before they go off to the county's central tabulator. I was a poll worker for the county, the majority inspector of elections, in the district next to mine in the 19th Ward, for 5 elections over a 3 year period. During the '07 General Election, the County's elections manager ordered computer techs to go to the different precincts and use the ES&S Ivotronic voting machines' Master PEB Cartridges to "check the voltage", 2 hours before the polls closed. Both District 3 and District 4's machines were accessed by the county tech. (I still have his business card.) Both districts have a strong Dem voter registration advantage, and both usually record a strong preference for the Dem candidate during every election. But in the '07 final election, both recorded a preference for the repug candidate for Mayor.
After seeing this happen, when I was trained for the '08 General (Final) Election, I asked the County elections expert trainer if we should allow county techs to access our machines, using the Master PEB Cart, near the end of the voting day, if the machines are obviously not having any problems. Boy, did they get unhappy and hot in a hurry.
It was a simple question, I didn't ask it in a snotty manner. But they first tried to say maybe I wasn't even allowed to work inside the polls -- since I was a 19th Ward Dem committeeman, there might be some sort of vague unspecified conflict. I said "Oh, all right" and started to leave the training site, and they said "No, no, we want you to work." (The job is long hours, sucky pay, and they can't get enough personnel to work their polls.) Then when I got home, (it was a Saturday) I had an extremely irate message on my phone from one of the wiseguys who control county elections. I called him back, and he was real mad and agro, asking me several stupid and aggressive questions when all he had to do was tell me my services weren't needed to work the polls. Then on election day, my district had a ton of unusual problems, though the 4 previous elections I worked had gone smoothly. So I dealt with the problems, and wrote all the irregularities down. O'Brien and Flynn from the county didn't send anyone to check our voltage. My speculation is that there was a backdoor to the Ivotronics program, where Check Voltage = Flip Tallied Votes, switch candidate preference totals. And I'd like to point out that the current 2016 'victor' definitely received the wiseguy vote.
The bottom step, in terms of possible vote count security flaws, is the actions of the actual poll workers. In the past, audits of machine results have shown manipulation, where there was a long run of voters who voted for repugs, then several who voted for dems, then another long run of voters who voted for repugs. In this 2016 final election, I worked for Election Protection, at Ward 30, District 1 and 4, a few miles away from my home District. I stayed after the polls finished up and posted their final results tapes outside the polling place, around 8:15 pm. They recorded 60% turn out. Then I went to my voting precinct to see my poll's results. Ward 19, District 28's personnel were still busy inside the polling place, there wasn't a crowd of voters inside, as I could see through the slit windows. I didn't have a county poll watcher's certificate, so couldn't go inside the locked polling location. I waited outside for a half hour, then gave up and went home. I wound up going to see the posted results at 5:30 am the next day, then looking them up on the county website.
My precinct recorded an 81% turn out, 10 to 20 % higher than the 19,4 and 19,3 polls I worked in the past, the 19,1 poll that I voted in for 2 decades, and the 30,1 and 4 districts I just got done 'protecting'. And 31% of the votes in this Dem stronghold poll were for dRUmpf, while only 14 and 19 % backed him in the 2 Ward 30 districts I worked at.
So, I don't allege any felony election fraud was committed by the poll workers in 19, 28. But it would be easy enough to verify, by looking at audited machine results, the district register, the signed voter cards. I'm on the record, with the Ward 30 Chair, with the 30, 1 Dem committeman, with the former Ward 19 chair I served under (2 of whose relatives served in statewide offices), with the 5 election protection lawyers and observers I interacted with, with 3 of my Dem party-backing union officials, with the 2 official poll watchers from the Democratic Party. Every statement I made can be easily verified, all those local Dem honchos know who and what I am and what I did. I'm willing to swear an oath and sign a deposition about all the particulars I related above.
The issue is this: There are a lot of dem bigshots and honchos around this site. BUT, there is a disconnect between the 'important' dems who post here, and the dems who are 'important' in the physical area I live in, in Western PA, which is in one of the states that improbably 'flipped'. As usual, after I put in work on an election, all the area's bigshots immediately stop communicating with me, until they need me again in 2 or 4 years. The official campaigns fold up and disappear, the Dem-backing labor elements go back to not communicating with rank and filers like me, the Dem party local officials go back to whatever they're usually doing, the massive Election Protection coalition's groups of activist lawyers, social justice orgs, civil rights orgs, labor orgs go back to their standard radio silence. There will be no after-action report issued, there will be no post election meeting to offer a post mortem analysis.
It sure would be easy to verify that everything was above board in my Dem stronghold voting district. But while I have the will, I lack the authority, credentials, portfolio, or support to do so.
Of course, I'm willing to entertain any suggestions from this site's Dem bigshots.
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If You FEEL IN YOUR GUT that Something STRANGE Occurred on Election Day....You may BE CORRECT! [View all]
FrenchieCat
Nov 2016
OP
Her margin is now bigger than the winning margins for John Kennedy and Richard Nixon.
Sunlei
Nov 2016
#85
"Which institutions? Which leaders?" Obviously it would be the Clinton campaign and the DNC.
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#101
TRUMP IS A CROOK. Somehow the election was stolen. Will we ever know the truth?
trueblue2007
Nov 2016
#14
I certainly needed it....especially to read the analysis of the returns as it was happening
FrenchieCat
Nov 2016
#33
I have felt from the start the DU hack was part of a multi-prong attack on the election. What can
chimpymustgo
Nov 2016
#104
No options for: Possible, with no further comment. or Not Enough Information.
Lil Missy
Nov 2016
#32
can we not become like Freepers and Breitbart types...people who make up their own facts
ericson00
Nov 2016
#34
DT knew if he cried Rigged Rigged beforehand & got Dems to denounce that, they couldn't cry the same
Overseas
Nov 2016
#110
TPM showed a brexit style flip in candidate victory odds, 9:30 pm, election night.
Mc Mike
Nov 2016
#75
what bothered me the most was the 90,000 detroit ballots where president choice was left blank.
Sunlei
Nov 2016
#84
could have been a trend of 'protest non-vote', however the 90k number was way to high, IMO
Sunlei
Nov 2016
#87
Look at the people Trump has with him. There is a dearth honestly and respect for fairness,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2016
#89