2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Ten Reasons Why Hillary lost - And they are probably not what you thought [View all]quantumjunkie
(244 posts)You make valid points but you purposely left out that Hillary had major flaws.
1. She became very arrogant and did not campaign that much (or at all) in those specific states that are the focus of recounts. Obama brought this up as a radical departure from what he would have done.
2. She didn't have a message. I'm with Her is not a message. All she did was say to vote for her because Trump was worse. Not smart
3. She refused to embrace Bernie's supporters which were the young and Independents because as she said in the Primaries she did not need them.
4. She was and still is very much tied with the very things that voters despise which is pay-to-play politics. This is the key reason the young and Independents were not excited by Hillary. This is quite possibly the biggest reason why Trump was able to beat her. She was viewed as the establishment while Trump was viewed as the Change candidate this round. Sure Trump is a heavily corrupt and is very much establishment but he kept bangining the message that Hillary was the establishment not him.
It was not about her being a woman (for democratic voters). Elizabeth Warren would have won this (polls showed Bernies supporters would have overwhelmingly supported her). Obama would have won a 3rd term even though he too is a flawed candidate (another pay-to-play type) but at least he is a tad left of Hillary.
I donated several times to the recount with some hope that it might put Hillary in the WH but make no mistake it is only because she is the better alternative, not because she is good.