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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Its Time for Bernie Sanders to Apologize to his Supporters, and to President Obama [View all]
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After two terms with a popular Democrat in the White House, the American people had a choice between going for change by electing an absurdly inexperienced man from the opposition party, or staying the course, which would have been a vote of confidence for the leadership achievements of the current commander in chief. That argument had to be made in order for the Democrats to win. But Bernie Sanders decided to run in opposition to the Democratic establishment, to make the case that they were doing it wrong. On the one side, Donald Trump was braying about the failed policies of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, and on the other side, Bernie Sanders was saying essentially the same thing.
As Sanders saw his chances fade and slip away, his attitude turned more desperate and his fury became much worse. Bewildered and indignant, his escalating attacks were not just directed against Hillary Clinton, not just against Obama, but against the Democratic party itself. He held his followers as collateral, as bargaining chips, and badgered the Democrats into changing their platform. That platform was already evolving to satisfy far left supporters, even if some of the shift risked alienating more moderate voters whose main concerns were lower taxes and a tougher stance against terrorism.
It was a dangerous game to play, and Bernie didnt do it alone. Certainly Jill Stein shares much of the blame for sucking up the disillusioned refuse who turned against Bernie as quickly as theyd embraced him. Stein was busy running her own parallel campaign of resentment and hate. Not against Donald Trump and the Republicans, mind you, but against Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. Bernie had given them a reason to hate, then snatched away their favorite chew toy. Donald offered them a new place to hate Hillary. So did Jill Stein. By the end of the election it would take a village to bring down someone as smart and formidable as Hillary Clinton. We lost and we lost badly, just as Donald Trump warned us we would. There are many reasons why this happened clever manipulation by Steve Bannon (who will be a one trick pony, mark my words), a difficult candidate to draw enthusiasm from some like Hillary Clinton was. The FBI, scared little men like Putin and Assange playing with their toy guns. We needed all hands on deck to pull out a win and we got exactly the opposite from our own side of the political spectrum.
As Sanders saw his chances fade and slip away, his attitude turned more desperate and his fury became much worse. Bewildered and indignant, his escalating attacks were not just directed against Hillary Clinton, not just against Obama, but against the Democratic party itself. He held his followers as collateral, as bargaining chips, and badgered the Democrats into changing their platform. That platform was already evolving to satisfy far left supporters, even if some of the shift risked alienating more moderate voters whose main concerns were lower taxes and a tougher stance against terrorism.
It was a dangerous game to play, and Bernie didnt do it alone. Certainly Jill Stein shares much of the blame for sucking up the disillusioned refuse who turned against Bernie as quickly as theyd embraced him. Stein was busy running her own parallel campaign of resentment and hate. Not against Donald Trump and the Republicans, mind you, but against Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. Bernie had given them a reason to hate, then snatched away their favorite chew toy. Donald offered them a new place to hate Hillary. So did Jill Stein. By the end of the election it would take a village to bring down someone as smart and formidable as Hillary Clinton. We lost and we lost badly, just as Donald Trump warned us we would. There are many reasons why this happened clever manipulation by Steve Bannon (who will be a one trick pony, mark my words), a difficult candidate to draw enthusiasm from some like Hillary Clinton was. The FBI, scared little men like Putin and Assange playing with their toy guns. We needed all hands on deck to pull out a win and we got exactly the opposite from our own side of the political spectrum.
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Its Time for Bernie Sanders to Apologize to his Supporters, and to President Obama [View all]
boston bean
Dec 2016
OP
The only reason Hillary was close is she adopted much of Bernie's platform!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#133
Attacking the electorate. It's the new strategy for winning elections. n/t
Crunchy Frog
Dec 2016
#173
Some people were peeved that there was anything beyond a perfunctory, just-for-show primary
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2016
#166
No, it doesn't work both ways. She was millions of primary voters and hundreds of pledged
pnwmom
Dec 2016
#176
why the hell should the winner of the primary drop out and support Bernie Sanders?
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#183
So did I but Bernie basically calling her Goldman's girl hurt her in the general.
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#231
Bernie benifited from the system he claims to be against. He used the Democratic
R B Garr
Dec 2016
#191
It's a shame to see Democrats falling into the unreality sinkhole like the Fox watchers.
R B Garr
Dec 2016
#192
People keep bitching about him not being a Democrat and using the Party for his own gain.
progressoid
Dec 2016
#229
I think Sanders, particularly his supporters, have a lot to do with Trump winning, but it's time to
Hoyt
Dec 2016
#15
Feel better now? Another hour, another anti-Bernie, anti-Bernie-supporters post.
democrank
Dec 2016
#23
Yep, he needed to get visible quicker. Folks didn't start "getting" him until well after Super Tues
JudyM
Dec 2016
#58
Fuck that. If the DNC had been smart and not tried to put Sanders and the things he was fighting for
JCanete
Dec 2016
#245
If anyone should be apologizing for not playing by the rules it's... oh never mind...
JudyM
Dec 2016
#50
That is so misleading because Sanders never ever "said essentially the same thing as Trump"
mtnsnake
Dec 2016
#54
That is totally different. Trump stole criticisms that were effective, but the two were not selling
JCanete
Dec 2016
#246
Bernie is not a Democrat and King did not run in the Democratic Pary and cost us the election
Demsrule86
Dec 2016
#187
the bitterness of those who ignored all the signs that HRC was not the candidate...
mike_c
Dec 2016
#62
Hear hear! I agree with you wholeheartedly, except on one point - we didn't lose big.
EffieBlack
Dec 2016
#63
"We needed all hands on deck to pull out a win and we got exactly the opposite from our own side of
Cha
Dec 2016
#72
LOL! He will crush anyone. He has an extremely high favor ability rating!! nt
Lucky Luciano
Dec 2016
#104
He is a safe seat. Better to invest in other senate seats, don't you think?
Lucky Luciano
Dec 2016
#114
I wouldn't put such a boneheaded move past the Party leadership, just look
TransitJohn
Dec 2016
#161
I'm sure that they will not make the same mistakes that they have made in the past.
lapucelle
Dec 2016
#195
What the country earned was the harvest of running two people most of the country disliked.
TransitJohn
Dec 2016
#212
Yes - Bernie's stances on the issues and consistency thereof totally suck!!!
Lucky Luciano
Dec 2016
#96
No one got that memo, and there WAS a primary, and Clinton won decisively. And no one....
George II
Dec 2016
#125
There were several "viable candidates" in the race, all of whom were Democrats.
George II
Dec 2016
#145
Trump's rivals called him a 'con artist' (Marco Rubio) and a 'pathological liar' (Ted Cruz).
Eric J in MN
Dec 2016
#111
Enemies List eq Enemies List + Millenials + White Working Class + Bernie Supporters
NRQ891
Dec 2016
#147
'So sorry for standing up for what USED TO BE Democratic party values'
BlueProgressive
Dec 2016
#151
"We needed all hands on deck to pull out a win and we got exactly the opposite" PREACH!!!
BobbyDrake
Dec 2016
#163
You can thank your ridiculous rhetoric for repelling people who might have supported Sanders.
Buzz Clik
Dec 2016
#203
hehe, yeah, they must all be really dicks. Maybe they even said "fuck all hillary supporters"
JCanete
Dec 2016
#247
at the time I came back into these boards there was a lot of nastiness to go around. Which
JCanete
Dec 2016
#256
This is all total bullshit and bad for this board, but for whatever reasons you have
JCanete
Dec 2016
#244
Bernie is clueless on a lot of things and his campaign was myopic in many ways
forjusticethunders
Dec 2016
#259
what it is time for is to put down the Crack pipe and pull heads out of asses.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2016
#267