2016 Postmortem

PatsFan87

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33. I agree with this.

Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:12 AM

Dec 2016

A house candidate named Zephyr Teachout tied the environment to the economy, saying proposed pipelines hurt tourism in the area. She didn't win but using the environment in a monetary sense is a direction we should go in.

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The Bernie Support bashing in this forum is disgusting! [View all] ihaveaquestion Dec 2016 OP

We need to take the best from both HRC and BS MaeScott Dec 2016 #1

And what should we do first? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #11

Change some views metroins Dec 2016 #29

I agree with this. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #33

So in order to win...we have to give up stopping people from shooting up schools and clean air and Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #110

"we have to give up stopping people from shooting up schools" SMC22307 Dec 2016 #134

+1! BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #82

Exactly. Would you mind reposting that as an OP? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #132

These posters were given free reign to do so during the primaries ... surrealAmerican Dec 2016 #2

Way more Hillary supporter were stalked and banned. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #10

Look around you. surrealAmerican Dec 2016 #14

Some haven't returned to "Site Voltaire*" yet. *Pinebaggers* refer to this site by that name. grossproffit Dec 2016 #20

Since I actually live within BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #84

I'm pretty sure they refer to us as Site Voldemort. :-) n/t seaglass Dec 2016 #135

Absolutely right, but it's falling on extremely deaf ears. JudyM Dec 2016 #143

Yep. grossproffit Dec 2016 #17

So.Not.True. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #56

So true... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #117

Ha! I personally know at least one poster PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #111

I know several Hillary supporters who are in the same boat...I took a vacation myself. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #116

They weren't banned. They were re-ffr'd after relaxing the rules to allow them back. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #124

It does. Do you actually have numbers of who was stalked, or is that anecdotal? While we're JCanete Dec 2016 #149

Sanders supporters were running this place for months. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #43

Yep sheshe2 Dec 2016 #129

WTH?! What months are you talking about?! JudyM Dec 2016 #145

When was this because I missed it? dae Dec 2016 #155

All true. jack_krass Dec 2016 #60

LOL! Maven Dec 2016 #99

How did you think we would take it BainsBane Dec 2016 #3

"Did you think people would be repeatedly attacked without striking back?" tecelote Dec 2016 #5

I am hoping at the end of this Sanders will be off limits. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #9

Not going to happen. And shouldn't. tecelote Dec 2016 #13

Sanders is not a Democrat and I hope to forget him soon Gothmog Dec 2016 #54

Never forget Bernie and the revolution he started!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #59

So far his revolution has given us Donald Trump WhiteTara Dec 2016 #96

Yes! Hillary was powerless. immoderate Dec 2016 #107

Obviously. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #119

Puh-leeeze!! Bernie's sage revolution helped bring many new young progressives to the party and energize the base... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #164

Pu-leeeeze WhiteTara Dec 2016 #165

Yes, but Bernie is a GOOD politician, one who doesn't come across as slick or the poll-tested, finger-in-the-wind type, and knows how to connect with ordinary folks. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #167

He was slick enough not to expose his finances WhiteTara Dec 2016 #168

A multi-million dollar estate in Westchester County better suits you? SMC22307 Dec 2016 #171

You're right. He's clean as the driven snow. nt WhiteTara Dec 2016 #172

I knew you'd come around. SMC22307 Dec 2016 #173

Bernie will never be the party's nominee Gothmog Dec 2016 #162

NEVER count Bernie out!! Guess we'll find out. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #163

There will be a large number of solid Democrats who will oppose Sanders strongly Gothmog Dec 2016 #170

I respect that, but I think the voters still get to decide... I could be wrong, but we'll see. Not sure if Bernie has another run in him... tho sur hope so! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #174

The voters rejected Sanders by 3 million votes already Gothmog Dec 2016 #180

Maybe it won't happen, but it should Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #115

No one should be off limits... Begabig Dec 2016 #35

We need to put this party together...he is not a Democrat.. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #114

Huh?! A devisive figure?!... Bernie will be our next President!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #58

Bernie will never be president ...he will be 80 next time. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #113

Tell that to the people obsessed with conspiracy theories about the primary BainsBane Dec 2016 #22

You do yourself harm. tecelote Dec 2016 #34

Explain to me BainsBane Dec 2016 #42

Yep. LisaM Dec 2016 #76

WTF are you talking about?? n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #161

"I ... found Hillary Clinton lacking something." Hippie-bashing! Drives people away! betsuni Dec 2016 #4

Democratic Party bashing divides Democrats and Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #8

Exactly. betsuni Dec 2016 #12

I never met a hippie. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #121

. JudyM Dec 2016 #147

Not all Bernie supporters are bad but his Bernie,bros can fuck off👍🏼 stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #6

You can't call people names on DU. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #7

He showed us that you don't need to court MaeScott Dec 2016 #18

the only thing he He showed us is how to lose a primary. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #23

Yeah, a mere speed bump on her road to defeat. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #40

The only thing Hillary showed us is how to lose a general. TCJ70 Dec 2016 #50

In the end, Bernie was right... guess that's just to hard to accept. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #61

And lose it to the most absurd candidate in American history, no less. n/t QC Dec 2016 #97

Like Hillary in 2008? She also showed us how to lose the GE in 2016. Exilednight Dec 2016 #62

As far as I can tell Bernie divided the Democratic Party Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #109

+1! BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #86

I'm sorry, but is Sanders actually *IN* the Democratic Party? baldguy Dec 2016 #15

Strong debate is good for a party Boomer Dec 2016 #16

Rolling eyes at the snit fits is all the snit fits are worth. MaeScott Dec 2016 #19

After one sees thread after thread blaming Sanders for Hillarys' loss & one even demand an appology think Dec 2016 #88

Are you sure about this...you might have noticed in this era of 'strong debate', we lost everything. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #122

Probably because delusional centrist thought hey what we need is someone to start TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #181

The Bernie "revolution" is a big part of why her untrustworthy numbers were underwater. DanTex Dec 2016 #182

I hope most of it is anger over the election mythology Dec 2016 #21

Most of them do it because it's so much more fun being angry & unproductive than productive mtnsnake Dec 2016 #24

THIS mac56 Dec 2016 #25

I think they would rather point fingers MaeScott Dec 2016 #27

+1 SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #28

Right on!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #63

I am neither angry or unproductive ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #92

Yep. OnionPatch Dec 2016 #138

No self-reflection about the obvious contradiction in blaming him for her loss but also touting the JudyM Dec 2016 #150

For the record BainsBane Dec 2016 #26

He showed us that if you have a resonating MaeScott Dec 2016 #30

You don't speak for the 99% BainsBane Dec 2016 #44

Then it should be quite easy for a certain fiery progressives to run for re-election in Vermont lapucelle Dec 2016 #127

I think Hillary would have been a million times better for the 99% than Trump kcr Dec 2016 #140

"get over the primary and move the fuck on" jack_krass Dec 2016 #72

They need to just shut up. bobGandolf Dec 2016 #31

scapegoating will not win us elections jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #32

As a proud Bernie supporter and Hillary voter, I choose to ignore bashing posts. Vinca Dec 2016 #36

I agree.. time to move on and fight the real threat... BREMPRO Dec 2016 #93

Next time let's annoint someone, skip the primary process, TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #37

geez quit treating Bernie like a special snowflake treestar Dec 2016 #38

Only room for one special snowflake on this board. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #39

So true... and they can't even see the hypocrisy!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #65

Apparently so. JudyM Dec 2016 #151

I changed parties just to caucus for him, remained a Dem to support Hillary against Trump even GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #41

Don't let a few angry people on the internet make your decisions for you. dawg Dec 2016 #46

I don't know. It may need me, but I don't need the abuse. I may just have to bring back my GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #48

Like you, I voted for Bernie in the primaries and Hillary in the general. dawg Dec 2016 #49

I expect this will go on for a while. In the meantime, those of us who want to do something GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #51

I really think local politics is the best place to work for change. dawg Dec 2016 #55

Completely agree. We have so much work to do on the local level. Which Bernie has already started JudyM Dec 2016 #153

You want to hear the truth? I'll tell you the truth ... dawg Dec 2016 #45

Agreed. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #53

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Oh FFS... SidDithers Dec 2016 #70

Yep mcar Dec 2016 #80

We Were In Hiding otohara Dec 2016 #90

Well said, Sid. Bobbie Jo Dec 2016 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #78

The thing is... vi5 Dec 2016 #52

Bernie cost us the election. woolldog Dec 2016 #57

How did Bernie lose us the election? Exilednight Dec 2016 #64

Seriously? woolldog Dec 2016 #66

Yes, I am being serious. Either Hillary can deal with the criticism or she can not. If she can not Exilednight Dec 2016 #67

+1000 Maven Dec 2016 #101

"What separates Obama from Hillary?" The fact that his opponent admitted defeat, and supported him LongtimeAZDem Dec 2016 #75

Did you see the same Convention that I did, or watch the same campaign? Exilednight Dec 2016 #81

The Convention was six weeks after he lost the Primary. LongtimeAZDem Dec 2016 #85

Yeah and where was his concession and endorsement? Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #123

You mean the convention where a bunch of his entitled holdouts Maven Dec 2016 #102

The one where he sat, red-faced and angry in the stands? LisaM Dec 2016 #108

Hillary Went All Out For Obama otohara Dec 2016 #148

Bernie Sanders Packs Schedule With Campaign Stops for Hillary Clinton Exilednight Dec 2016 #156

So we need to make sure nobody runs against the Democratic candidate next time. milestogo Dec 2016 #69

Single candidate Primaries and general elections, like all the best dictatorships! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #83

yes, if only we could have avoided having an acutal primary process, that there was the problem. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #141

It's nothing compared to the 8 years of Obama bashing... SidDithers Dec 2016 #68

Attacking voters was counterproductive. Seshat Dec 2016 #71

I'm trashing the postmortem thread in a bit. Why get sucked in to it? mahina Dec 2016 #73

I would have voted for Bernie if he'd won the nomination. Paladin Dec 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #77

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #79

The people who tossed "neoliberal" around so freely are now complaining about "hippie-bashing?" BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #87

He Can't Stop Bashing The Democratic Party Either otohara Dec 2016 #89

Are you reading the responses from Sanders' supporters in your own thread with regards to Hillary? SaschaHM Dec 2016 #91

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Please don't let us detain you. Paladin Dec 2016 #98

When Bernie stops bashing the Democratic Party and acknowledges the role he played Maven Dec 2016 #100

"When . . . (translated) Uponthegears Dec 2016 #106

Psst. Obama's about as "third way" as Hillary Maven Dec 2016 #126

"Hillary's Platform?" Uponthegears Dec 2016 #128

Forced to adopt? Maven Dec 2016 #130

Your arrogance is astounding for a supporter Uponthegears Dec 2016 #137

I agree. CentralMass Dec 2016 #103

Thanks, question. elleng Dec 2016 #104

You talking about responding to Sanders' supporters who have been trashing Clinton since GE. Hoyt Dec 2016 #105

This is why i rarely post. Scruffy1 Dec 2016 #112

Exactly. We lost to TRUMP and people here are in full denial realmirage Dec 2016 #144

I understand where you're coming from. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #158

I have lost track of the posts that blame Bernie for Hillary's losing the election. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #118

It is worse on the other side. duffyduff Dec 2016 #120

According to the forum rules, Bernie is to be accorded the same level of respect as a Democrat. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #160

What is disgusting is that the Postmortem forum is being used as a group to rehash the still_one Dec 2016 #125

Okay, since we don't have a button Uponthegears Dec 2016 #139

Neither Trump nor Sanders are agents of change. J_William_Ryan Dec 2016 #131

No. Change comes from pounding at the gates and making the insiders nervous. JCanete Dec 2016 #166

The term "hippie bashing" is way past its shelf-life. Hekate Dec 2016 #133

Given DU's demographics, shelf life is irrelevant. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #146

Senator Sanders is a great soul. Neither saltpoint Dec 2016 #136

It's reason why Dems will continue to lose. No unity at all. bekkilyn Dec 2016 #142

Oh, there's some unity among Democrats, just not here on this forum. nt mtnsnake Dec 2016 #152

I sincerely hope you are right bekkilyn Dec 2016 #157

If anyone is still dragging Bernie or his supporters underthematrix Dec 2016 #154

These are the same people who blame everyone else except HRC for HRC's loss Larkspur Dec 2016 #159

We support Democrats here. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2016 #169

Has been since the primary budkin Dec 2016 #175

oh gees, what IS YOUR PROBLEM !!!! no one is hating on Bernie. trueblue2007 Dec 2016 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #179

I haven't seen a lot... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #177

The 2016 primary was baby frolics compared to Obama vs. Clinton, or Dean vs. Edwards vs. Kerry killbotfactory Dec 2016 #178

My post was deleted for supporting Bernie. You can only safely say certain things here. Joe941 Dec 2016 #183