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FBaggins

(27,740 posts)
37. Not only "able"... but it's easy
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 PM
Dec 2016
http://www.palmerreport.com/news/vote-totals-shift-donald-trump-pennsylvania-1-recount/357/

The story out of Pennsylvania the day after the 2016 election was that Donald Trump had won the state in a shocking upset by a mere 70,638 votes. Those totals, which were supposedly final and came directly from the Pennsylvania precincts themselves, were widely reporting – including in this USA Today article. But after major voluntary revisions by various precincts, Trump’s already tiny lead has now shrunk considerably – and this is all before the impending state recount.


The revisions are in no sense "voluntary" since counting absentee ballots and reviewing provisional ballots are actually required by law. Nor would the earlier counts be "supposedly final" (for exactly the same reason).

Then there's the misleading (http://www.palmerreport.com/news/despite-judges-ruling-most-wisconsin-counties-voluntarily-agree-to-hand-recounts/312/)

Despite the state government’s best effort at preventing a hand recount, most of the ballots cast in the 2016 presidential race in Wisconsin will indeed be counted by hand. The Republican-controlled state went to court to try to limit Jill Stein’s recount to nothing more than a machine or “optical scan” recount, which is far less likely to reveal errors or fraud – and a judge ruled that each Wisconsin county could decide on its own whether to recount by hand or machine. But as it turns out, most have agreed to do it by hand.


The reality here is very different from Palmer's spin. Nobody argued that the recount should be limited to machine counting... nor is there any "despite". State law says that each county gets to decide on their own which method is most appropriate for their situation. In the majority of cases, hand counting is preferred, but not in all. Stein wanted the court to ignore the law and order 100% hand counting... and lost. There is no "despite" since all of the counts are pressing forward exactly as they would have if the case was never attempted. The counties didn't "voluntarily agree" to Stein's request... they did just what they were already going to do.

More falsehood here:
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ahead-of-recounts-erred-trump-favor/306/
Ahead of recounts, three states admit they “erred” in Trump’s favor by thousands of votes


This yet again deceives the reader into thinking that the normal counting/canvassing/etc process is actually an "admission" of "error".

Then there's the lie about the "Wisconsin votes uncovered by the hand recount that the machines missed" (which were just mock-ups on sample ballots)

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/wisconsin-votes-uncovered-recount-counting-machines-missed/329/

In other instances, voters circled the name of the candidate they were attempting to vote for, because the instructions never did say anything about how they were supposed to mark the candidate they were voting for.


This ridiculous claim despite the fact that the sample ballot clearly shows those directions.
Knr AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #1
Sounds like the infamous Waukesha County Rat Bastard Mafia is at work again. lastlib Dec 2016 #2
They need to dig into this county like a Darrel Issa tick. nt MaeScott Dec 2016 #34
is that a real thing-- or at least real corruption there? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #53
IIRC, the County Clerk there was a serious RW wanker, pulled some shenanigans... lastlib Dec 2016 #57
Not that I trust Waukesha County, but.... LisaM Dec 2016 #3
Waukesha is dirty and has been for a long time. shraby Dec 2016 #5
Yes, I know. They have that awful clerk LisaM Dec 2016 #6
You're referring to Kathy Nickolaus, or, as I call her, Kathy Nickolouse. NBachers Dec 2016 #7
And of possible assistance to her ... the voting machine of Waukesha Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #14
Perhaps a bit of 'caveat lector', until his sources check out ... Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #15
Thanks for finding that. EL34x4 Dec 2016 #22
+, send proof to the feds...fuck an email uponit7771 Dec 2016 #19
It's beyond fake news FBaggins Dec 2016 #28
you are grossly misinformed. Please provide an example where the Palmer Report KittyWampus Dec 2016 #36
Not only "able"... but it's easy FBaggins Dec 2016 #37
You're nitpicking. Palmer's overall point stands, radius777 Dec 2016 #43
Yet another example from his most recent attempt at "journalism" FBaggins Dec 2016 #58
Palmer is a good guy who is hated by the alt-left. radius777 Dec 2016 #42
He's a nobody who isn't even known by the alt-left FBaggins Dec 2016 #45
knr triron Dec 2016 #4
Palmer Report...again. VisceralM Dec 2016 #8
Eye roll. Firebrand Gary Dec 2016 #9
The Palmer Report Is... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #13
Someone I know who (an attorney) is on the ground and taking part in the recount Glimmer of Hope Dec 2016 #39
Walkesha is, has been and remains extremely Republican. That they would vote for Trump in large stevebreeze Dec 2016 #10
People should go to JAIL. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #11
I'm thinking the same thing. These actions aren't just affecting a county. C Moon Dec 2016 #12
A message needs to be sent that this crap has actual penalties. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #16
I'm starting to think the "soft" criticisms of Obama are founded... If Obama went hard as hell uponit7771 Dec 2016 #18
The Democrats should never have taken the "honor the results" position. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #21
Right... Especially when Russia was involved already... Good point uponit7771 Dec 2016 #23
Eric Holder tried very hard. LisaM Dec 2016 #30
Yes, this is a good point too... somehow voter suppression should be top of DNC grass root to do uponit7771 Dec 2016 #31
Why isn't the suppression of a constitutional right MaeScott Dec 2016 #35
They are trying. LisaM Dec 2016 #38
That's an accusation, Stein should provide proof.... and send it to the feds !!!! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #17
This is how Trump the most corrupt won then presidency UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #20
"Palmer Report" is just a pro - Jill Stein/Green Party blogger oberliner Dec 2016 #24
No, he's a pro-Hillary guy smeared by alt-left/Bernie/Stein radius777 Dec 2016 #40
That's right oberliner Dec 2016 #52
Are you kidding? The guy behind "Dailynewsbin"????? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #49
You are right oberliner Dec 2016 #51
We'll be reading this junk in 2050. We lost, period. A few votes might move in one direction or Hoyt Dec 2016 #25
Respectfully disagree, Hoyt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #26
Except that this is just more Palmer-esque nonsense FBaggins Dec 2016 #29
Thanks for facts. There is a similar misconception about Wisconsin (I think). Hoyt Dec 2016 #32
Yep. WI was what I was referring to in that last sentence FBaggins Dec 2016 #33
The gop had elections officials who were jailed in Cuyahoga county Mc Mike Dec 2016 #54
Disagree. Palmer's overall point stands, radius777 Dec 2016 #41
Nope... it doesn't. FBaggins Dec 2016 #44
I've held no brief for Palmer, and appreciate your correction of the record on that point, FB. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #46
The 2011 issue to which you refer was an election night tabulation problem corrected before canvass PeaceNikki Dec 2016 #47
Disagree 100%, PN. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #56
Here's a vid from the Waukesha county recount, Walker-backing Judges election: Mc Mike Dec 2016 #27
Thanks for the update! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #48
the ballots should impounded and counted by hand by some independant party. Takket Dec 2016 #50
should be but... triron Dec 2016 #55
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