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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: New Post on Palmer Report...Wisconsin (another update on Waukesha County) [View all]FBaggins
(27,746 posts)44. Nope... it doesn't.
that most of these "adjustments" to the vote totals have all seemed to go in one direction, when it should be more random.
Except that isn't true. It's just all of the cases that his source (himself) chose to report on. There have been scores of adjustments... and not just in one direction. In the Wisconsin recount, they actually have been slightly in the other direction.
The changes in MI/PA were the results of provisional and/or absentee ballots - which we would normally expect to lean blue. Nothing unusual there either (despite his attempts at spin).
If Trump/GOP thought this was "just normal election stuff" they themselves wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail against a recount.
Also incorrect. They believe (and they're probably right) that Stein doesn't think that there's any chance that a recount will change anything... but that if they can stretch them out past the 13th, they will remove up to three states from the "safe haven" period and force the Republicans in Congress to act in order for Trump to win (further legitimizing him). He needs them to end by the 13th... and MI/PA would be very unlikely to finish by that point (let alone NC and FL).
If only one state flips, such as MI, it could expose vote stuffing/suppression/machine issues, and make the electoral gap closer, which further delegitimizes Trump, who as it is lost the popular vote.
That's not a "point". That's a simple statement of fact. The problem for Palmer is that he acts as though such issues have been discovered/exposed (and that he's the one doing it). Neither is true.
The WI recount is about 42% complete...and so far there isn't a single smoking gun. Both candidates have picked up a few dozen votes and lost a few dozen votes... with a net gap that is almost entirely unchanged.
Except that isn't true. It's just all of the cases that his source (himself) chose to report on. There have been scores of adjustments... and not just in one direction. In the Wisconsin recount, they actually have been slightly in the other direction.
The changes in MI/PA were the results of provisional and/or absentee ballots - which we would normally expect to lean blue. Nothing unusual there either (despite his attempts at spin).
If Trump/GOP thought this was "just normal election stuff" they themselves wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail against a recount.
Also incorrect. They believe (and they're probably right) that Stein doesn't think that there's any chance that a recount will change anything... but that if they can stretch them out past the 13th, they will remove up to three states from the "safe haven" period and force the Republicans in Congress to act in order for Trump to win (further legitimizing him). He needs them to end by the 13th... and MI/PA would be very unlikely to finish by that point (let alone NC and FL).
If only one state flips, such as MI, it could expose vote stuffing/suppression/machine issues, and make the electoral gap closer, which further delegitimizes Trump, who as it is lost the popular vote.
That's not a "point". That's a simple statement of fact. The problem for Palmer is that he acts as though such issues have been discovered/exposed (and that he's the one doing it). Neither is true.
The WI recount is about 42% complete...and so far there isn't a single smoking gun. Both candidates have picked up a few dozen votes and lost a few dozen votes... with a net gap that is almost entirely unchanged.
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New Post on Palmer Report...Wisconsin (another update on Waukesha County) [View all]
Farmgirl1961
Dec 2016
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IIRC, the County Clerk there was a serious RW wanker, pulled some shenanigans...
lastlib
Dec 2016
#57
you are grossly misinformed. Please provide an example where the Palmer Report
KittyWampus
Dec 2016
#36
Someone I know who (an attorney) is on the ground and taking part in the recount
Glimmer of Hope
Dec 2016
#39
Walkesha is, has been and remains extremely Republican. That they would vote for Trump in large
stevebreeze
Dec 2016
#10
I'm starting to think the "soft" criticisms of Obama are founded... If Obama went hard as hell
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#18
The Democrats should never have taken the "honor the results" position.
Spitfire of ATJ
Dec 2016
#21
Yes, this is a good point too... somehow voter suppression should be top of DNC grass root to do
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#31
That's an accusation, Stein should provide proof.... and send it to the feds !!!!
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#17
We'll be reading this junk in 2050. We lost, period. A few votes might move in one direction or
Hoyt
Dec 2016
#25
I've held no brief for Palmer, and appreciate your correction of the record on that point, FB.
Mc Mike
Dec 2016
#46