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Mc Mike

(9,171 posts)
54. The gop had elections officials who were jailed in Cuyahoga county
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 09:32 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:35 AM - Edit history (1)

for manipulation of the '04 recount. Felony convictions, 18 months in jail:

" Prosecutors accused Maiden and Dreamer of secretly reviewing preselected ballots before a public recount on Dec. 16, 2004. They worked behind closed doors for three days to pick ballots they knew would not cause discrepancies when checked by hand, prosecutors said.

...

But Cuyahoga's precinct-by-precinct vote counts and turnout numbers varied wildly and improbably. Several predominantly black precincts showed turnouts of less than 30% in a county where overall turnout was around 60%. One ward showed a 7% turnout as compared to surrounding precincts with turnouts nearly ten times as high.

Further prosecutions may now hinge on what Maiden and Dreamer might tell prosecutors about the role played by higher-ups. The assumption is widespread that the decision to consciously designate test precincts, rather than choose them at random, must have been at least tacitly approved by Secretary of State Blackwell.

In Cleveland, Robert Bennett, chair of the state's s Republican Party, also served as chair of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections. Cuyahoga BOE Executive Director Michael Vu was chosen by the county Democratic Party. Under Vu's direction, the county's elections have been rife with chaos, irregularities and apparent fraud. When the Democrats recently tried to remove him from his post, Vu was supported by Bennett and the Republican Party. He kept his job when Blackwell strategically abstained from a key removal vote. "

http://rangevoting.org/OhioConvictns.html



The reason a recount manipulation was necessary was because li'l bush "won" the '04 election by "winning" in Ohio. The official margin of his victory was 118,000 votes. But Professor Dennis Loo from CSU Pomona reported on the Cuyahoga County results from 29 conservative white districts that reported 93,136 more votes than voters. Those districts had 249,200 registered voters, and reported 342,336 votes. White repuglican ghost voters.

There's your "more votes than voters", FBaggins.

And at the same time, Prof Mark C. Miller from NYU reported that in the same election, in OH Dem stronghold city precincts, there were an inexplicable 97,000 ballots that recorded "no preference" for a presidential candidate, or recorded "too many preferences". (Fooled Again, page 299, hardbound). 97,000 more voters than votes. Dems of all races who's votes were ghosted.

So, in Ohio alone, in '04, in Dem cities and a heavily populated county around a Dem stronghold city, those 190,000 votes -- taken from Dems or added to R s -- were 72,000 votes more than the total margin of "victory" that gave our country the last disastrously sucky and nazi repug prez as a leader.



Here's an excerpt from an analytical piece by journalist Michael Collins on how li'l bush's '04 win was officially attributed to a 153% increase in support nationwide from big city white voters, despite no targeted outreach to big city voters of any kind, and no pro-city policies enacted by his admin first term. So his big city voter backing in '04 was 253% of his '00 support:

" FIGURE 3. We are expected to believe that after doing poorly in the rural area and small towns, Bush attracted several million new big city voters and pulled off a last minute victory. In the small towns he was well below his 2000 performance for total votes. In the “red” zone, rural America, he got fewer votes in 2004 than he did in 2000 while turnout was up across the nation.
Bush didn’t win the cities. He didn’t have to, he was already winning. Ultimately he had to achieve a better split in the big cities than he had in 2000. Looking at the chart above, you see the increase in Bush votes in the five location categories.

According to the vote totals, the real kill shot for the Bush victory came from large urban areas, “big cities”, defined as those with a population of half a million or more, e.g., New York, Chicago, Detroit, etc. These cities had been the strongest base for Democrats since the Great Depression. There had been variations in turnout from presidential election to election, but the margins had always remained strong.

...

Figure 5. Unprecedented! That’s the only word necessary to show the dichotomy of 2004 – Bush losing actual votes in his base, rural America, while gaining an exponential increase in big cities.
But something happened. The Urban Legend appeared in the form of a tidal wave of increased Bush support. While his rural, conservative, white, Christian voters were staying home or changing candidates, it seemed that his appeal to urban voters went off the charts. He increased from 26% to 39% of the big city vote total, from a 2.7 million total in 2000 to 5.9 million total votes in 2004. "

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0706/S00165.htm


Knr AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #1
Sounds like the infamous Waukesha County Rat Bastard Mafia is at work again. lastlib Dec 2016 #2
They need to dig into this county like a Darrel Issa tick. nt MaeScott Dec 2016 #34
is that a real thing-- or at least real corruption there? Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #53
IIRC, the County Clerk there was a serious RW wanker, pulled some shenanigans... lastlib Dec 2016 #57
Not that I trust Waukesha County, but.... LisaM Dec 2016 #3
Waukesha is dirty and has been for a long time. shraby Dec 2016 #5
Yes, I know. They have that awful clerk LisaM Dec 2016 #6
You're referring to Kathy Nickolaus, or, as I call her, Kathy Nickolouse. NBachers Dec 2016 #7
And of possible assistance to her ... the voting machine of Waukesha Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #14
Perhaps a bit of 'caveat lector', until his sources check out ... Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #15
Thanks for finding that. EL34x4 Dec 2016 #22
+, send proof to the feds...fuck an email uponit7771 Dec 2016 #19
It's beyond fake news FBaggins Dec 2016 #28
you are grossly misinformed. Please provide an example where the Palmer Report KittyWampus Dec 2016 #36
Not only "able"... but it's easy FBaggins Dec 2016 #37
You're nitpicking. Palmer's overall point stands, radius777 Dec 2016 #43
Yet another example from his most recent attempt at "journalism" FBaggins Dec 2016 #58
Palmer is a good guy who is hated by the alt-left. radius777 Dec 2016 #42
He's a nobody who isn't even known by the alt-left FBaggins Dec 2016 #45
knr triron Dec 2016 #4
Palmer Report...again. VisceralM Dec 2016 #8
Eye roll. Firebrand Gary Dec 2016 #9
The Palmer Report Is... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #13
Someone I know who (an attorney) is on the ground and taking part in the recount Glimmer of Hope Dec 2016 #39
Walkesha is, has been and remains extremely Republican. That they would vote for Trump in large stevebreeze Dec 2016 #10
People should go to JAIL. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #11
I'm thinking the same thing. These actions aren't just affecting a county. C Moon Dec 2016 #12
A message needs to be sent that this crap has actual penalties. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #16
I'm starting to think the "soft" criticisms of Obama are founded... If Obama went hard as hell uponit7771 Dec 2016 #18
The Democrats should never have taken the "honor the results" position. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #21
Right... Especially when Russia was involved already... Good point uponit7771 Dec 2016 #23
Eric Holder tried very hard. LisaM Dec 2016 #30
Yes, this is a good point too... somehow voter suppression should be top of DNC grass root to do uponit7771 Dec 2016 #31
Why isn't the suppression of a constitutional right MaeScott Dec 2016 #35
They are trying. LisaM Dec 2016 #38
That's an accusation, Stein should provide proof.... and send it to the feds !!!! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #17
This is how Trump the most corrupt won then presidency UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #20
"Palmer Report" is just a pro - Jill Stein/Green Party blogger oberliner Dec 2016 #24
No, he's a pro-Hillary guy smeared by alt-left/Bernie/Stein radius777 Dec 2016 #40
That's right oberliner Dec 2016 #52
Are you kidding? The guy behind "Dailynewsbin"????? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #49
You are right oberliner Dec 2016 #51
We'll be reading this junk in 2050. We lost, period. A few votes might move in one direction or Hoyt Dec 2016 #25
Respectfully disagree, Hoyt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #26
Except that this is just more Palmer-esque nonsense FBaggins Dec 2016 #29
Thanks for facts. There is a similar misconception about Wisconsin (I think). Hoyt Dec 2016 #32
Yep. WI was what I was referring to in that last sentence FBaggins Dec 2016 #33
The gop had elections officials who were jailed in Cuyahoga county Mc Mike Dec 2016 #54
Disagree. Palmer's overall point stands, radius777 Dec 2016 #41
Nope... it doesn't. FBaggins Dec 2016 #44
I've held no brief for Palmer, and appreciate your correction of the record on that point, FB. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #46
The 2011 issue to which you refer was an election night tabulation problem corrected before canvass PeaceNikki Dec 2016 #47
Disagree 100%, PN. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #56
Here's a vid from the Waukesha county recount, Walker-backing Judges election: Mc Mike Dec 2016 #27
Thanks for the update! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #48
the ballots should impounded and counted by hand by some independant party. Takket Dec 2016 #50
should be but... triron Dec 2016 #55
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